Why are people shocked when they are banned?

Anastaecia·7/21/2017, 9:42:06 PM·38 votes·2,423 views

About 90% of these posts are about being toxic. YES, you were. No need to post chat logs a mile long with umpteen cuss words, racial slurs, "kys". Even if you have never read a single ToS in your life (most of which read about the same as far as social interaction amongst players), you should know not to be an ass to other people. It's simple.

The other handful are 3rd party (well i didnt know that this program which interacts with the game was 3rd party?) or acct sharing type stuff (why can't I play on my friend's diamond account).

Really? If you are actually shocked by the bans, you probably shouldn't be in social situations to begin with.

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koshkyra7/22/2017, 3:29:18 AM21 votes

Annie kys you bronze fckhead yasuo Yasuo ... Annie /all report yasuo toxic

A week later

Annie WTF I WAS BANNED BECAUSE OF THAT FCKEN TOXIC YAS NOW IM GONNA COMPLAIN TO THE BOARDS BECAUSE EVERY YASUO IS TOXIC AMIRIGHT?

Telephone Booth7/21/2017, 10:28:33 PM11 votes

Because they see so many other toxic people, in their shallow minds, they think they don't get punished because there's so many of them. How could they be getting punished if there's so many in every game??? They lack critical thinking. They forget that when there's a million players, you're always gonna run into toxic people.

SuicideAll7/21/2017, 11:38:21 PM4 votes

League is the only game I have ever been banned from. I've been playing video games for over 20 years.

Either League is overreacting or everyone else is underreacting.

MUSHROOM MIDGET7/22/2017, 4:30:57 PM3 votes

very few people think they are being toxic. everyone is a hero in their own eyes. they are just trying to tell people how to play better, or standing up for themselves, or teaching a lesson to someone who needs it.

if someone thought they were going to be banned for their behavior they would change it. but everyone always believes they are in the right.

ShishouMatt7/22/2017, 2:57:53 AM3 votes

I'm shocked when a bot is actually banned. Or I should say I would be shocked.

Jeanne fan club7/22/2017, 5:58:49 AM3 votes

From what I've seen, toxicity gets banned significantly more than inting. I mean chat bans typically happen after 2 games, however you see these bot accounts/ inters going 30+ games without receiving punishment. I think its ridiculous that there is such a harsh stance taken against toxicity, however inting and trolling are barely punished at all, or are only caught once they have ruined the games of hundreds of people.

I think toxicity is focused on way too much instead of inting and trolling. A toxic player will still play the game, however an inter/troll will make the game unwinnable.

Drynin7/25/2017, 4:59:25 AM2 votes

So I need to say something here to the people claiming they had an "Unjust ban"/Toxicity is not as bad as griefing/Everyone here is a Snowflake.

Play a physical team sport for once in your life.

I'm serious. Get off the computer and join a softball league, or volleyball league, whatever. There's plenty of them out there. I promise you that a negative attitude/telling teammates they are bad/swearing a lot, anything like that will get you kicked out of that game and lose friends REAL fast. I'm not going to say they're havens for nice feelings. Emotions can run high in those games and some things can be said, but players will calm down real quick and apologize if they got out of hand and they want to continue playing. When you have to be around the same teammates for ALL your games (A luxury or a detriment depending on your viewpoint, I'm guessing) you learn to communicate and not piss others off.

So now comparing real life games, here's the counters to the most common arguments I'm seeing here.

1) I've never been banned before in other stuff in gaming. Only League. And league is quite possibly the only video game right now in the world that actively emphasizes full team play and responsibility. What I mean by this is that while I acknowledge there are a lot of competitive and team oriented video games out there, most of them can be dominated by a single player being amazing, or have situations where individual actions can be separated and rated easily. This is harder in LoL (not impossible. I won't go there), and definitely mirrors physical sports better (Try telling the quarterback he didn't need his defensive line to give the team a win and he'll laugh in your face.)

2) The real flames aren't getting punished, and I'm just defending myself against them. They are getting punished. Just because you got punished first because your flaming was more blatant and obvious doesn't mean they won't be seen and get the boot too. Yeah, people play the system. I play Rugby as my blood of choice. Standing word is if our opponents are breaking the rules, we don't yell to the sir (ref) if they didn't see it. (Nice quick way to get a penalty in physical sports) we make it obvious that they're breaking the rules. Learn how to do this. It's a skill. If you really want to engage and defend yourself, go ahead, but keep cool, stay confident and stick to facts. If that's all you do, they can't ban you. And trust me, it's easy to tell (from all the transcripts I've seen posted here) that all these examples had the player losing their cool and starting the harassment. It was already said in this thread, but it bares repeating. Saying, "You're bad!" Is harassment, not constructive criticism. Saying, "Care, you're too far forward, and that's why you've been ganked several times," doesn't matter if they say "Shut it. So Toxic." You're not going to get banned.

3) Toxicity has nothing to do with gameplay and is easily avoided. This is the big one that I honestly can't believe people are saying. In full team sports like I've been describing, communication is key. Hell, how many of you have flamed because "Mid-no AFK!? WTF!?" Saying you can just mute a player so you don't get anything form them except limiting it to pings is incredibly oblivious to game dynamics. While pings are a useful tool, they can't be the end all, so the solution can't be to completely shut off a teammate. That will still affect the gameplay significantly. Again, the first thing I learned in practice for Rugby was the coach wanted to hear us yelling on the field. I think that was drilled into us more than almost any other piece of rules or strategy. Talk! Talk to your teammates. I can understand getting heated and emotional in the moment, but seriously, the thing that baffles me is I've never seen a game where someone in chat admitted they were hot and apologized for it. NEVER! I think if that started happening a little more people would start to believe these "Unjust bans" claims a lot easier.

Dominick Destine7/24/2017, 4:20:57 PM1 votes

I've been permabanned twice.

The first time was in early season 2, I knew exactly why I was permabanned and was not surprised in the least given that I had been suspended many times before that and specifically warned that the next punishment would be permanent. I saw it coming a mile away and knew I deserved it.

The second time, I was zero-to-permabanned, I will not get into detail but I was very surprised and shocked... I believe this was S6.

Here are the chat logs that took me from zero-to-permaban;

6:42] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Come on ziggs... [6:52] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you were WAAAAY overextended [10:55] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Far tankier than I expected. [12:11] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Wukong, you have ZERO damage. [12:21] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Just going to farm, bot has no damage, top has no damage, mid is basically afk. [12:44] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): counter ignoring janna [13:27] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I did 65% HP of Galio's max HP [13:28] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you did noithing [13:50] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you have no damage [21:16] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Yes. You are reacting much more slowly. [21:21] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Your earlier assessment was correct. [21:43] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You should have been talking to yourself. [21:47] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): That was a 37 second chase and you did not react. [22:02] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You were not dead, you were not oom. [23:37] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): They'r eHEAVILY stacking MR [25:25] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): dont engage [29:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): We have zero perssure. [29:57] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): They always have absolutely everything up. [31:50] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): so who keeps troll voting no [32:12] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I don't mind losing. However, it really irks me to be stuck with 4 feeders that troll vote no... sigh [32:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): "clean up" says the feeder. [32:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Just putting you on ignore, until you stop feeding you deserve no attention [33:48] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): gg

Game 2: [12:44] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): ashe heal flash down 12:38 [13:36] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I didn't expect all 5 [16:29] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): bot and mid failed so hard, it was never winnable [16:58] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): "tilt" is just a word feeders use to make themselves feel better [17:28] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you hard-fed [18:32] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): It's been over for awhile. Bot and mid hard-fed [23:07] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): gg

Game 3: [4:31] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): xerath flash 4:19 [7:31] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): darius?!? [7:34] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): DAIRUS?!??! [7:37] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): What are you doing? [7:48] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): They're both under 20% HP [8:01] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): What were you doing? [8:09] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I am not fighting near you again [9:29] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): who cares.... [9:38] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you guys aren't even reacting to ganks. [9:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): it was over before it started, [9:57] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You guys,a s in my teammates [10:46] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): case in point [14:47] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): you fed him without him even using flash? [15:33] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I can't gank if you free feed him, he had flash [17:38] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): gj jihn [17:42] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): finally, a teammate that reacts [19:32] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): jinx flash 19:19 [20:25] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): Amazing. [21:03] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): oh well [27:43] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): / [31:45] [All] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): I have not seen darius ult a single time all game. [32:37] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): You and your duo queue fed them hard [32:40] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): it doesn't matter who I focus [32:51] Dominick Destine (Evelynn): putting you on ignore

This is one of the main reasons people are shocked. Because** The Draconian System** exists. It is an offshoot of leftist and those of us that are libertarian consider it to be one of the worst decisions Riot ever made.

Oh by the way, the second permaban was eventually overturned and rescinded.

Tentamon7/22/2017, 4:13:36 AM

Well, here is why. Tell me honestly I deserved a ban here. Please do. I'm happy to have a discussion on this one.

Game 1 Tentamon: wrong runes Tentamon: nice Tentamon: same difference Tentamon: I got ap runes Tentamon: ayy lmaaao Tentamon: nah Tentamon: zed has NO ap scalings Tentamon: Not really Tentamon: you'll see Tentamon: just my luck that on the worst day with the worst matchup I get the wrong fucking runeset Tentamon: yeah Tentamon: xDDD Tentamon: sure you are Tentamon: tear nasus Tentamon: slightly inting botlane Tentamon: :/ Tentamon: ap runes ayy lmao Tentamon: manamune nasus ayyy lmao Tentamon: karma yo stop Tentamon: you don't know anything Tentamon: ok Tentamon: not gonna be Tentamon: rude here Tentamon: ok Tentamon: I trust you Tentamon: but as you can see Tentamon: I got 33 ap Tentamon: meaning Tentamon: ap runes Tentamon: I fucked up there Tentamon: ? Tentamon: what? Tentamon: look at my champ Tentamon: I got 33 ap Tentamon: I just netted you 2 kills Tentamon: pretty clear that I know what im doing lol Tentamon: and? Tentamon: and? Tentamon: it can Tentamon: it does Tentamon: cass is NOT a good matchup Tentamon: muted Tentamon: good luyck inesports Tentamon: ye we cant really do much Tentamon: when this karma is teaching me how to win as zed with ap runes Tentamon: xDDDDD Tentamon: pro karma Tentamon: teaching me how to win lane witth ap runes Tentamon: whom do you love? Tentamon: ohhh Tentamon: yea dude Tentamon: true Tentamon: love y'all Tentamon: awww Tentamon: damn Tentamon: deleted Tentamon: oh well Tentamon: no botlane Tentamon: no toplane Tentamon: sorta loses the game! Tentamon: true Tentamon: dude Tentamon: who cares at this point Tentamon: I had full ap runes Tentamon: in lane Tentamon: ap runes Tentamon: against a cass Tentamon: who can harrass me Tentamon: sure I can Tentamon: they had the right runes Tentamon: lmao Tentamon: also Im not 0/7 Tentamon: *1/7 Tentamon: I mean no flame Tentamon: just saying this game was lost Tentamon: before it began Tentamon: dodge Tentamon: wow Tentamon: keep flaming kindred Tentamon: this kindred is just nonstop flaming Tentamon: xDDD Tentamon: well Tentamon: yeah Tentamon: but kind is a shit champ now Tentamon: also not sure Tentamon: not sure Tentamon: why I am the one Tentamon: taking blame Tentamon: best score with the ap runes zed Tentamon: just end this nightmare Tentamon: my adc Tentamon: and top Tentamon: kind of need to be reported Tentamon: IE on ashe Tentamon: lmao Game 2 Tentamon: right Tentamon: I'll try to play safe Tentamon: don't really wanna feed the illaoi Tentamon: I got tp Tentamon: so I'll try to get shit done Tentamon: around the map Tentamon: taric Tentamon: obviously Tentamon: grasp ashe Tentamon: lmaaaao Tentamon: what Tentamon: hate that braindead champ... Tentamon: see what I mean Tentamon: braindead champ Tentamon: lmao Tentamon: WHAT Tentamon: YOUR BOTLANE Tentamon: IS LOSING Tentamon: TO GRASP Tentamon: ASHE Tentamon: I AM AGAINST THE MOST BRAINDEAD CHAMP IN THE GAME Tentamon: AND MY BOTLANE IS LOSING TO GRASP ASHE Tentamon: LMAO Tentamon: GRASP ASHE Tentamon: see what happens Tentamon: when skill comes to it? Tentamon: xD Tentamon: ur ranged Tentamon: how does grasp ashe have a better kda than jhin... Tentamon: can you not int feed? Tentamon: vlad mid losing to jinx Tentamon: love my life Tentamon: KAYN STOP Tentamon: STOP TAXING Tentamon: tfw you lose to grasp ashe and jinx mid Tentamon: noice Tentamon: we cant play Tentamon: with this vlad Tentamon: hes trolling Tentamon: lmao Tentamon: ye Tentamon: you didnt stomp the grasp ashe Tentamon: xDDDDDD Tentamon: XXXXDDDDDDDDD Tentamon: LOSES MID TO JINX Tentamon: BEST ON MY TEAM Tentamon: ECKS DEEEEEE Tentamon: uhm yeah Tentamon: you lost lane Tentamon: are you daft? Tentamon: you lost to jinx mid Tentamon: this team....kms Tentamon: what Tentamon: 1000 smth dmg in fractions of a second Tentamon: guess D blade really is broken af Tentamon: yeah... Tentamon: what Tentamon: congrats Tentamon: gave up baron Tentamon: ... Tentamon: you are right Tentamon: FROZEN MALLET ASHE Tentamon: XDDDDD Tentamon: IM SORRY I JUST SAW Tentamon:  Tentamon: nope Tentamon: not happy Tentamon: and noone is carrying me lmao Tentamon: we wull
Tentamon: *will Tentamon: why illaoi Tentamon: paper thing Tentamon: feeder? Tentamon: what Tentamon: what Tentamon: reporting you for that one lmao Tentamon: noone called you a feeder Tentamon: just said you lost lane Tentamon: which you did Tentamon: well I didnt say you were a feeder Tentamon: just said you lost lane Tentamon: playing well now Tentamon: lemmme tank Tentamon: ecks dee Tentamon: need 100 gold Tentamon: dude Tentamon: u are getting banned Tentamon: just fyi Tentamon: errm Tentamon: how is that crying? Tentamon: just saying your acc will get permabanned Tentamon: why cant we just push Tentamon: and end Tentamon: we duo it Tentamon: wow Tentamon: nice one guys Tentamon: tfw you gotta do 1v1s and its late game ayyy lmaaaao Tentamon: well yeah Tentamon: whom else Tentamon: go Tentamon: end this Tentamon: now Tentamon: damn it feels good to be a gangster Tentamon: of course Tentamon: ludakinja Tentamon: jebena