the things adc and "support" players say while playing incredibly oppressive bot lane combos like 
with ignite.
When they're pushing my bot lane under turret and question why they're being ganked at level 3 with 2 squishy champions. How about you play defensive supports? Alistar? Nautilus? Braum?
Or are you guys gonna keep playing the victims
Incarceration6 votesDon't act like junglers aren't oppressive now. They are literally the strongest now.
notice me Sin pi4 votesupvoted for pointing out jg bot ganks are easier handled by defensive supports, and downvoted for implying junglers are balanced
SchmidttyGames3 votesAs a Zyra Support Main, if I get ganked and die that early it's almost always my fault. Until my first back to buy a Sightstone, I typically save both Flash and Exhaust for that purpose, and intentionally position myself so that my passive will drop me some seeds near the river area. Until I have the SS, I can't see what's coming down the river and I play accordingly.
Please don't lump all "Supports" into the same category. People hate on us enough as it is.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesI haven't seen anybody complain about that since junglers were able to hit level 3 after killing Red Buff and Krugs.
CrimsonDawn772 votesIt's kinda true, you'd be surprised how often ppl play super aggressive and push constantly, only to get camped and lose land cuz of it. I'm an adc main, and the second I see this I tell my jungler and mid "bot lane pushing constantly. free kills roam here"
Sahn Uzal1 votesThat's something I can live with. What I don't like is playing Gangplank with teleport, and having a level 3 Kha'Zix dive me while I'm still level 2. My AAtrox got a doublekill after that dive, but they would've gotten away with it otherwise.
Ben Sharpio1 votesRiot DID try to stop the bot lane fiesta's with teleport though, since they increased the TP time. Gangplank excels in that aspect of not actually having to be there to "gank", but he is generally not too strong in my opinion.
But can you be honest and tell me if level 3 dives are actually happening while exhaust/flash/heal are up? I doubt it.
Sahn Uzal1 votesI was toplane. The TP nerf wasn't really relevant to the situation, I mentioned it because having exh might've changed the outcome :P
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wgocy3Te,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-04T20:12:07.987+0000)
That's something I can live with. What I don't like is playing Gangplank with teleport, and having a level 3 Kha'Zix dive me while I'm still level 2. My AAtrox got a doublekill after that dive, but they would've gotten away with it otherwise.
That's called: Playing GP and getting abused for it.
Almost anyone else and you would be fine.
Sahn Uzal1 votesI don't mind getting abused for playing GP. Well, I do. But I know it's going to happen.
The part that I ain't okay with is junglers beating me to level 3 And towerdiving shouldn't be a thing that early. I think most folks can agree with that one.
GarthBrooksXD1 votesThis should be less common with most junglers starting their bot side this season. But even after you finish first clear and gank top/mid or both etc.. still zyra and cait will push the lane and make themselves an easy target for ganks when they are lvl 4. They also have the tools(plants and traps, yellow trinket, and should have your bot to low health if they have been successful in their strategy) to make that gank unattractive.
Say the enemy jungler starts top side though, just make sure to play with caution around 3:00-3:45 and definitely have a ward in the bush nearest the enemy jungle at that time if you are going to play an oppressive lane.
Say you are on their team though, and you should know where enemy jg started... ping them to play cautious and to ward those bushes they are most vulnerable from around that time. Also, if you think it is likely, well you already know it is likely that cait and zyra will play like this... then plan to counter gank around the time that the enemy jg will be on the bot side of the map. Or go down there and ward for them and do the scuttle crab. I usually always buy a control ward on my first back to help protect my lane i feel is most vulnerable to ganks.
JackMcSnipeyz1 votesOr maybe some junglers are too safe and have faster clear that makes them oppressive. Why when i play a jungler who isnt part of the holy trinity, i risk losing my entire jungle.
This other day i was playing camille jungle, i was going to my blue, level 2 with half health from wolves, just to find lee sin already waiting for me at level 3 with redbuff and full health. But no, he's balanced! Im just playing the victim.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesYeah tanks are so durable when they can't buy items.