AD Items are ALL 'on-hit' items

Mira Arya Enthe·Nov 19, 2016·1 votes·1,433 views

Just a reminder, that AD is 'on hit damage'. Best thing about this 'on hit effect' is it can crit, lifesteal, scales abilities, effects towers and benefits and benefits from multiple items and masteries!

I bring it up because I have built an AD item or two on some recent Shyvana games. Got complaints that she scales from on-hit only. Meanwhile I had perfect KDA and we won the game. But you know, elitistjerks said ignite munchi-(WoW joke)... I mean some website told me Shyvana can only build on hit items. Better rage at my fellow players for building a different item.

So just a reminder, the 'AD' number on your little stat bar? Yes, that is all ON HIT damage. With extra benefits as well!

11 Comments

PennsNov 19, 20161 votes

Well Im sure you know this but her Q applies on hit effects twice + is an auto attack reset so she generally does scale better with on hit items like item 1416 and item 3748

Mira Arya EntheNov 19, 20161 votes

Generally she does scale better with on hit items. But if I pick up a BT for sustain and damage to towers, that is still a perfectly valid item. In fact I have seen Valkrin and SpikeThePike choose it from time to time.

PennsNov 19, 20161 votes

Ive seen AD Shyv work and when her Q is maxed the second hit has 100% ad scaling so.. why not I guess.

Big LincolnNov 19, 20161 votes

item 3153 and item 3812 are not the same category of on-hit

in fact i would say AD is an on-attack effect

Mira Arya EntheNov 19, 20161 votes

I'm less talking about the technical programming, which I admit I know little about. I am talking about the effect it has in game. When you attack somebody with 200AD, you do 200 damage 'On-Hit'.

PPPPPPPPPPPP270Nov 19, 20161 votes

I thought on hit damage's weakness is that it can't crit. Life steal is a bit different though for on hit effects as that scales off damage dealt.

Mira Arya EntheNov 19, 20161 votes

It also does nothing to towers and most on hit effects cannot lifesteal. Bloodrazor does not, Titanic Hydra explicitly does not that is the purpose of Ravenous Hydra, Wit's End certainly does not. I believe BotRK does however as it is a part of the item's design.

CochoNov 19, 20161 votes

I checked your games, idk which one you're mentioning, but phanton dancer isn't optimal on shyvanna. Its fun and I build dumb stuff all the time, but I wouldn't make that on her if Im being serious :P

Shyvana item 3046 Why not just make a bork instead lol

Mira Arya EntheNov 19, 20161 votes

Normals, not ranked.

Phantom Dancer and Tri-Force are Shyvana's potential 6 item boot replacement items. They are not 'optimal' on her in general. But they make up for selling boots and provide more overall power.

The item I am talking about is in a normal game and is BT, which even Valkrin and SpikeThePike have purchased on her for sustain, shield and having damage against towers.

CochoNov 19, 20161 votes

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Normals, not ranked.

Phantom Dancer and Tri-Force are Shyvana's potential 6 item boot replacement items. They are not 'optimal' on her in general. But they make up for selling boots and provide more overall power.

The item I am talking about is in a normal game and is BT, which even Valkrin and SpikeThePike have purchased on her for sustain, shield and having damage against towers.

That's fine, just mute the haters lol

RaiokuMoonscarNov 19, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WdGXoYoq,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-11-19T18:52:41.546+0000)

Normals, not ranked.

Phantom Dancer and Tri-Force are Shyvana's potential 6 item boot replacement items. They are not 'optimal' on her in general. But they make up for selling boots and provide more overall power.

The item I am talking about is in a normal game and is BT, which even Valkrin and SpikeThePike have purchased on her for sustain, shield and having damage against towers.

I have to disagree on Tri-Force not being optimal, she uses sheen incredibly well, and the item 3748 item 3078 combo is deadly.