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Udyr deserwes to burn in hell

Knight SoIaire ··2 votes·632 views

seriously every problem this guy can face he can easily solve by: -items (mercurical scimitar and boots of swiftness oh boiiiii fk my life) -thinking sometimes -his insane stats

also whats with that hype that udyr has no dash so he needs to be the jack of all trades ? he has no dash so he is allowed to run as fast as ppl dash 24/7 ? im prety sure that akali would had problems outrunning him if she would dash through warded jungle

ofc the champ isnt the pinnacle of opness because ppl usualy expect him to be freelo and totaly screw their game up but once you find one guy that actualy thinks about what he does this guy does what he wants and how he wants it and you cant punish him

id honestly pick him up if he wasnt so ugly

so rito pls either nerf or give him a vu

you cant deny that udyr isnt broken, not with all the ballzy plays you can find on youtube he is indeed complex to play but he has too much of brute force to actualy work around it

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ElementM2 votes

I was playing against an Udyr with the Spirit Guard Udyr skin and lets just say that I didn't think that anyone could out run a ult'd master yi, but apparently that was no problem for Udyr.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

yeah if you would see my face when i was just sitting next to my base and udyr charged me with his homeguard buff still on

Kitten of Evil1 votes

Uhh... anyone with a snare or stun can handle him pretty easily. He's similar to Master Yi except without the obnoxious untargetability.

Also, he can be kited for DAYS. Just ask Ashe or Kalista.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

I'm not sure a 1sec minimum stun can hold off 1000000000000 lifestealing AAs from a bs tanky bruiser, plus Turtle stance for more lifesteal or Tiger stance for that DoT damage, I'm dead anyway even as Darius

Kitten of Evil1 votes

He's not attacking you while he's snared or stunned, and by then you have a chance to either retreat to/behind your tower, your team, or your support. If none of those things are close to you, you probably are out of position and he deserves the kill, but even then so many champs can escape, and damage him if he tries to chase (Nocturne Lux Anivia Nidalee Kennen just to name 5 off the top of my head)Like I said, his huge weakness is kiting.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

ccing his seems to be effective but what will you do when he pulls a mercurical scimitar out of his butt not only he will remove the cc but also speed himself up in the end one champion worth of cc wont be able to stop him so you need to dry quite much of your cc to stop one guy in a teamfight while cc's main use is to lock the enemy carry down

also kiting only exists if udyr is randomly charging at you in the open thats why i said that udyr can simply resolve every of his problems with something -hard cc gets rekt by qqs -soft cc gets rekt by boots of speed in combination with bear (even blue ezreal will get cuaght )

also the scenario you gave us is 100% flawed it works only when a) you have your team nearby and udyr doesnt b) you have your tower nearby c) you have a clear sight of udyr before he is even close d)you picked a champion hat has hard cc that cant be juked (one of the biggest argument i almoust forgot, cc nowadays is 100% dodgeable)

ofc im not saying that those circumstances dont happen what im saying is that udyr can easilky maneower you or your team into fighting on his terms (he can ward the jungle and clear your wards or simply flank, or wait till you blow your cc like any other person)

my point is that udyr as any champion has weakneses but unlike any other champ he can simply negate them almoust completly to the point where he has nothing his enemy can exploit

Kitten of Evil1 votes

You're setting up a weird situation too. Are we talking teamfights? Then you have a whole team to peel him off of you while also trying to isolate the enemy carry. Not to mention he's pretty bad at teamfighting, because any AOE damage or AOE cc (Sejuani Amumu Anivia Azir Lissandra ) will stop him. If you're talking 1v1, then yes, he's fairly good but not uncounterable. He can ward and so can you. If he's counter-warding you, counter-ward back. You should be warding/counterwarding regardless of who you're facing, because many champions will destroy you if you don't see them. Map awareness wins games.

You should literally always, in every situation, A) have your team nearby, B) have a tower nearby, or C) have clear sight of the area around you in case you're ganked/D) have CC or an escape that's rather reliable. What are you doing wandering off by yourself to unwarded areas?

What can you exploit? The fact that he has to run up to you before he can bash your face in. Sure, he can run quickly, but he doesn't have a blink or a dash like Kat/Zed/Talon/Leblanc. I'd MUCH rather see Udyr on the enemy team than any of those.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

Then you have a whole team to peel him off of you while also trying to isolate the enemy carry

the question is whether can you peel him off at the same time as you cc others and cc's which you listed are i would say rare (throw anivia out because she will get rekt by any assasin) most of them are also tied to ults so again mercurical scimitar says hi because cooldowns match azir is a good champ ill agree with this one but i dont see it being possible to cc udyr while also ccing his team unless he clumps with his team and a meele whos main fight tactic is to get in your face wont do that so easily

you just overestimate the power of cc, its indeed good as i already said, but its not enough, i wont just delete him, it will slow him down (not to mention that other champs are actualy taxed for their cc so you cant just pick an all cc team since you will lack follow up dmg)

Serenity Now1 votes

Udyr is sleeper OP. Absolutely.

By mid game, he can cover the map faster than any other jungler. He can split push and clear camps fast, allowing constant invades. He can get out of most sticky situations with a stun and run.

His only counter is chained stuns and/or slows, which requires two or more people to pull off.

His strategy is not to team fight, except as follow-on cleanup, but to force your team to split up. That allows him or the rest of his team to take objectives and win through attrition.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

His only counter is chained stuns and/or slows, which requires two or more people to pull off.

His strategy is not to team fight

id like to commment on that

if udyr needs couple ppl to chain cc on him isnt he an effective tank in teamifghts?

i mean just like any champ he is countered by cc but unlike any champ cc stops him from getting to your face and only when he is actualy affected by it (some champs cant just continue to fight once you cc them and create some gap, udyr can be persistent here)

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