Why is Nunu so basic?

Mister Modesty·Jun 30, 2017·2 votes·599 views

Whenever I discuss Nunu, people always flair up. I don't get it. His kit hasn't changed for as long as I've been playing.

Not to say that it's a bad kit... Nunu wins me games when I jungle and clear camps too fast to know what to do with myself.

But just look at his kit. Everything about it is, well, basic. But people insist that other champions are higher priority for reworks. How??

That's not a rhetorical question at all. I truly don't get what makes a champion "high priority" when it comes to reworks.

I've heard people say Urgot is high priority right now- but didn't he just get reworked?

When is Nunu going to get some love?

[zombie-nunu-tears]

14 Comments

CrabPeopleReformJun 30, 20172 votes

urgot just got reworked? what are you on?

Mister ModestyJun 30, 20171 votes

I'm on https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/WXKmvA0O-why-is-nunu-so-basic?comment=0002

Urgot's Ultimate was reworked- adding fear to the area where he lands. Do you even follow League?

LimmieJun 30, 20171 votes

Because he's a really really old champion.

Mister ModestyJun 30, 20171 votes

So is Warwick. And oddly enough, both WW and Nunu used to have the same exact W. Warwick got reworked a couple times since I started playing.

AtheosisXJun 30, 20171 votes

Downvote for Urgot alternate history moment. WTF?

Mister ModestyJun 30, 20171 votes

Urgot's Ultimate was reworked a few months back. Dig into that mind of yours for some League memories older than a week old.

AtheosisXJun 30, 20172 votes

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Urgot's Ultimate was reworked a few months back. Dig into that mind of yours for some League memories older than a week old.

Rofl...that's not a rework.

Mister ModestyJul 1, 20171 votes

I'll give you that, although I don't know what you would call it. Still, it's more work than has been done to Nunu. And my point is being proven with these downvotes. It is a fact that Nunu has not changed at all since Season 1. His skills are "point and click" and very simple. When you look at all the other champions who had similar "simplicity" Riot gave them a nice rework. I just don't want to see Nunu being the only champ being left in the dust.

AtheosisXJul 3, 20171 votes

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I'll give you that, although I don't know what you would call it. Still, it's more work than has been done to Nunu. And my point is being proven with these downvotes. It is a fact that Nunu has not changed at all since Season 1. His skills are "point and click" and very simple. When you look at all the other champions who had similar "simplicity" Riot gave them a nice rework. I just don't want to see Nunu being the only champ being left in the dust.

The downvotes are for the Urgot rework comment. No one thinks Nunu doesn't need a VGU.

Mister ModestyJul 3, 20171 votes

I don't care for the reasoning of the uneducated. If people can't look past a simple example to see the bigger picture, it is a failure of their own. I don't care for popular opinion. Nunu is in the most need of a rework considering the simplicity, and lack of attention of his kit. Period. Riot needs to re-examine the standards of rework priority. It is absurd to continue balancing champions with great kits because the lackluster kits don't measure up. This creates a paradigm of favoritism- one where select champions will continue to receive attention because they once did receive attention. This is League of Legends. Yasuo should be OP. ALL champs should be OP. The problem isn't OP champs- the problem is weak kits stacking up against the OP champs. We all want the champs to be OP- to be spectacular in gameplay. Nunu is the least spectacular champion out there.

TheGoomyGamerJul 3, 20171 votes

That was like over a year ago (MArch 9th 2016)

Mister ModestyJul 3, 20171 votes

And Nunu's kit was last worked on back in 2007- when LoL came out.

DeathBurstJul 3, 20171 votes

That's not a rhetorical question at all. I truly don't get what makes a champion "high priority" when it comes to reworks.

If a champ is any one of, or a combination of: frustrating to play against (uninteractive and/or lack of counterplay), too low skill ceiling, too high skill floor, too large a gap between high Elo and low Elo performances, too binary (a.k.a. Feat-or-Famine), or poor execution on their thematics. These are reasons that they are high priority.

Nunu kits is basic, sure, but it doesn't really suffer of any of the above issues, or at least none at a severe degree. Sure, his skill ceiling is a bit low, but he still sees pro play once in a while. Sure, his thematics execution is not perfect, and the duality between Nunu and Willump isn't very visible, but he still has character and personality.

I've heard people say Urgot is high priority right now- but didn't he just get reworked?

That wasn't a rework, that was an opportunistic band-aid. If you cut your hand off, it's not because you just stopped the bleeding that you shouldn't go to the hospital. (Also, technically, Nunu received a very similar change in scope when they reworked his passive.)

When is Nunu going to get some love?

Without any unforeseen event that would bump him up the list of priorities, maybe 2-3 years for a full rework. Keep in mind though: he's not in a terrible spot currently, contrary to what you claim, and he'll still be touched with balance changes if need be.