It sucks that long-range mages have no anti-magic options since Abyssal is a trap

darkdill··1 votes·554 views

Lux, Syndra, Xerath, etc., can't really get any suitable defenses against magic assassins because getting HP/AP items is shooting themselves in the foot, and without HP an Abyssal Scepter is trash.

You could say "Don't get caught", but some magic assassins like Ekko will just make safety-style gameplay a laughable concept. How does one "play safe" when your enemy can dive you from over a screen away?

12 Comments

ChaddyFantome3 votes

They shouldn't. Of all mage archetypes, they should be the ones most vulnerable to getting jumped on.

SaltyKracka2 votes

You can't have effective defensive itemization for characters who already have the best defense: not being in range of you and having CC to keep you out of range of them.

k wìx2 votes

So, theres a few points to be made here:

  1. 'Poke' mages like Xerath have really strong counters - don't play him against Yi or Ekko - or your going to have a bad time. Period. This is a flaw with his kit and has NOTHING to do with items. You can build armor to circumvent this, but thats the price you pay for that poke and reach.
  2. It is absolutely important and necessary to build armor or health or MR themed items. You either go pure glass cannon and rely on your range to save you, or you build armor and realize you must build some items sub-optimally.

This is called balance, my friend.

Class dismissed.

warpenguin5551 votes

long range is supposed to make you vulnerable.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Build Negatron Cloak.

Late-game, either sell it or build it into Guardian Angel or Banshee's Veil.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Why is Abyssal a trap on Lux/Ziggs?

60 AP/MR 10% CDR Your magic dmg is amped by 10%

Seems like a great defensive AP item.

darkdill1 votes

MR does nothing if you don't have high HP to back it up. You'll still tend to get 100-0'd.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Lol, 60 MR can often be the difference between 100-0 early. Besides with items like RoA, Protobelt, GLP, Ryalis and Liandyrs you have a extra 300 HP.

Your not trying to be a tank, your trying to survive a round of burst, witch the Sceptre helps your do.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

item 3102

Proxy3451 votes

item 3065 lol

Aptest1 votes

item 3027 to provide you with base survivability item 1057 into any of it's upgrades to make it stick.

Rebonack1 votes

...where you around when Abyssal used to have a 1k range MR shred aura?

It was pretty insane.

I figure it's the same reason why there aren't any Armor/AD items. Riot doesn't want to introduce 'win more' items if they can avoid it.

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