Other ways to change talon's cut-throat without killing him

forist·11/27/2014, 2:40:39 PM·1 votes·847 views

So, riot decided to remove the silence from Talon's e (cut-throat) effectively ripping his utility from him. I'm not making this thread to debate whether or not the silence had to be removed. It's obvious riot cares about talon as much as I care about what Justin Bieber writes on his twitter page. So, they decided on a lazy fix, and gave talon a slow for a 1/4 of a second, a true nerf. (Irelia would be proud)

Now, I'm gonna go ahead and use my super-creative mind to come up with a whole bunch of alternative ways riot could've changed cut-throat in order to remove the silence from his kit, but not completely trash him at the same time, and since I'm fucking terrible at math I'm not gonna delve into changing ratios or any of that bullshit. (Disclaimer- I'm not trying to insult the company who's game I currently enjoy free of charge, I'm just trying to garner some attention in order to maybe help my favorite champion become a little more viable, or at least not get thrown into the dumpster with urgot.... poor crab man D:)

  1. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and becomes un-targetable for 1-2 seconds.

  2. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and conjures a spell sheild for 1-2 seconds.

  3. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds interrupting the target's channeled abilities.

  4. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and shoves his blade up the target's ass knocking them up for 1 second and achieving new champion status by synergizing with yasuo's ult.

  5. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and gains increased movement speed and collision immunity towards his target for the duration of the mark.

  6. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and marks the target giving the rest of his abilities bonuses against the target: shadow assault (r) movement speed is doubled, noxian diplomacy (q) bleed ratio is increased, rake (w) slow duration is doubled. (So basically a nidalee-like change)

  7. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and resets the cool down of noxian diplomacy (q).

  8. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Passive: Talon gains increased spell-vamp against a target with lower than 1/2 hp.

  9. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Passive: Everytime noxian diplomacy lands the cooldown of cut-throat is automatically refreshed.

  10. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and takes reduced damage by 20% for 1-2 seconds.

  11. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and gets extremely pissed and therefore is unable to be killed for 2 seconds. (sound familiar?, tryndaqueer)

  12. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and glows red being unaffected by any form of cc for 1-2 seconds. (Talon the viking)

  13. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds if they are an enemy, if its a ward or friendly champion/minion he gives them a reassuring pat on the back and raises their morale. (wards have feelings too, especially the sad amumu ones D: )

  14. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and can reactivate his cut-throat after 3 seconds to return to his original position.

  15. Talon blinks to a targeted location amplifying his damage against any enemy champions within a 3 foot area of him for 3 seconds.

  16. Talon throws a knife forward 700 units, if the knife hits anything, terrain or an enemy champ, Talon can blink behind the enemy silencing them for 1 second and amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Passive: Talon is now blind and a monk.

  17. E - new name for the skill (use your imagination): Talon focuses on one target locking onto to them and gaining double movement speed for 5 seconds and increased damage while locked onto a target.

  18. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and roots the target for 0.5 seconds.

  19. Talon dashes towards his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and silencing the target for 1 second if the target isn't facing him.

  20. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Passive: cut-throat's cooldown is reset upon getting a champion kill or assist.

  21. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Cut-throat is now ammo based and holds 3 charges. (yay now talon is almost as broken as akali, all we need are resets now :) )

  22. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and reflects the damage of any basic attack he receives within the next 3 seconds, increasing his movement speed for a successful parry. (fiora would be proud)

  23. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds, enemies marked by talon cannot be targeted by their allies for 1-2 seconds.

  24. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Passive: Talon gains increased movement speed towards any enemy champions with less than 1/2 their hp.

  25. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds, any enemy talon blinks to gets super-scared and wets themselves, resulting in them being feared for 0.5 seconds. (Also leaving a trail of piss on the ground until they reach their turret)

  26. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Over the next 3 seconds cutthroat can be reactivated to block one enemy spell/skill. (like sivir's spell shield)

  27. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds, Talon's next cast of noxian diplomacy (q) is now guaranteed to crit.

  28. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds. Mana cost: 0 mana

  29. Talon channels for 2 seconds then leaps to a target location amplifying his damage against all enemies within a 3 foot radius of his impact for 3 seconds and silencing them for 1 second. (spartaaaaa!!)

  30. Talon blinks behind his target amplifying his damage against that target for 3 seconds and can reactivate cut-throat during the duration of the mark to instantly enter stasis and be unaffected by anything for 1 second. (troll-pole without the pole, maybe a troll-cape idk...)

Ok, I think 30 is enough for now. Also I'm completely certain that almost all of these ideas are completely un-original and have already been posted or thought of, so if anyone see this thread and feels like they deserve credit for an idea, lemme know and I'll give you 100% credit via a little side note next to the idea. Anyways lemme know your thoughts and opinions about any or all of these ideas for balance changes on talon's cut-throat. Also, feel free to share any ideas you have for fixing Talon's e.

Finally, @any riot employee/red that is lucky enough to notice this gem of a thread: please comment or at least give us some info on what you plan to do about Talon's kit, even if there is nothing planned, I'd very much appreciate you saying just that. :D

2 Comments

forist11/28/2014, 6:23:56 AM1 votes

Bumpity-bump..... If that even works nowadays.

Btw if you have time to donvote the thread why not stop by and offer your own input? >:)

forist11/29/2014, 5:25:30 AM1 votes

My thread die without anyone else's comments..... only a downvote or two..... I have failed yet again. ToT