Just a reminder for riot: talon's ult is not giving stealth.
Way to reproduce is to q and then ult right after q finishes.
Here are some examples of what I mean:
Please fix it its annoying. Almost as annoying as trying to get an image/video to show up in my post.
forist2 votesI'm so tilted that some videos are showing up and others aren't. If you click the ripped paper image they should still work.
l30 VI1 votesthey can see u in it? I dont play him but not sure what is going on
forist1 votes[{quoted}](name=l30 VI,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=pgXhzEh3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-19T10:22:08.030+0000)
they can see u in it? I dont play him but not sure what is going on
So in every clip you can see the ad carry auto-attacking me while stealthed. That shouldn't be possible unless they have vision. Thus the ult is not stealthing me. It's really annoying.
Serika Zero1 votesYeh it's a bug. and it's the reason why I never qr before q ends.
Unless it's a 1v1. There's a way to do qrr properly and have the blades convergence on your target almost instantly but idk the timing for it.
or if I have to actually press r twice.
But yeh, the invisibility part won't work ever on a qr. you can reproduce it pretty much 100%
forist1 votes[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=pgXhzEh3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-19T14:33:46.062+0000)
Yeh it's a bug. and it's the reason why I never qr before q ends.
Unless it's a 1v1. There's a way to do qrr properly and have the blades convergence on your target almost instantly but idk the timing for it.
or if I have to actually press r twice.
But yeh, the invisibility part won't work ever on a qr. you can reproduce it pretty much 100%
But in those clips i do wait for the q to end.
mister swift1 votesok. got them all.
1: so you know how talon automaticly auto attack his q target right after the q damage? yeah well he did that and you ulted while the auto attack wasnt fully landed yet. so the attack went off after the ult went off making you visible. the best proof of this is you didnt touch tristana after you ulted and the blades converged to her.
2: same as nb 1 (hard to see tho).
3: Lulu had her e on you, revealing you.
4: leblanc chain revealed you. (the first lucian auto was already launched before you went invis).
5 : Kayle got an oracle potion with kleptomancy. you can see this by the pink eye above her head.
if you have question or dont believe me, feel free to comment
forist1 votes[{quoted}](name=mister swift,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=pgXhzEh3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-19T16:35:41.412+0000)
ok. got them all.
1: so you know how talon automaticly auto attack his q target right after the q damage? yeah well he did that and you ulted while the auto attack wasnt fully landed yet. so the attack went off after the ult went off making you visible. the best proof of this is you didnt touch tristana after you ulted and the blades converged to her.
2: same as nb 1 (hard to see tho).
3: Lulu had her e on you, revealing you.
4: leblanc chain revealed you. (the first lucian auto was already launched before you went invis).
5 : Kayle got an oracle potion with kleptomancy. you can see this by the pink eye above her head.
if you have question or dont believe me, feel free to comment
Ok, so the bug is that the ult is canceling the stealth even if the auto attack is canceled is what your saying? But ability inputs were specifically changed in order to be able to cancel aa reset commands with abilities on champions like talon and pantheon a couple of patches back. So why is this still a problem?
The last clip explanation makes sense though, I don't know how oracles works, but if it reveals stealth to the whole team not just kayle, then it makes sense. In the other ones I fail to see pix on my model or the animation for the leblanc chain, but its possible I just can't see it with this quality of replay.
mister swift1 votesit is possible to cancel that auto attack after your q. my point is, talon did not. so the auto attack proced After the ult stealthed you, auto attacking a target while stealthed reveals you. Just look at the ultimates blades converging to the target as if you auto attacked or q'ed them, it does feel bad and could use a fix, but isn't technically a bug. as for the other examples,
3: look at the eyes icon above your head (lulu e revealing you)
4: it is very hard to see because she casts it at a very short range but you can see the animation of her launching the chain.
Cheers!
forist1 votes[{quoted}](name=mister swift,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=pgXhzEh3,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T17:05:43.785+0000)
it is possible to cancel that auto attack after your q. my point is, talon did not. so the auto attack proced After the ult stealthed you, auto attacking a target while stealthed reveals you. Just look at the ultimates blades converging to the target as if you auto attacked or q'ed them, it does feel bad and could use a fix, but isn't technically a bug. as for the other examples,
3: look at the eyes icon above your head (lulu e revealing you)
4: it is very hard to see because she casts it at a very short range but you can see the animation of her launching the chain.
Cheers!
I don't think you understand. The auto attacks are being canceled. The patch I mentioned earlier specifically changed the auto attack resets so that they could be canceled by inputting an ability. Even if that's not the case, I know that during those games I did in fact manually cancel my auto attack.
mister swift1 votesi dont think you understand that if the basic attacks were cancelled the blades would not converge onto the enemy
forist1 votes[{quoted}](name=mister swift,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=pgXhzEh3,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-21T15:23:43.686+0000)
i dont think you understand that if the basic attacks were cancelled the blades would not converge onto the enemy
Yes, exactly. The blades shouldn't if he basic attack is cancelled. Thus, this is a bug, because they are and I'm also losing stealth on top of that.
GitaroTWITCH1 votesÄhm, sieht hier keiner, dass Kayles True Vision ausgelöst wird?
Does anyone not see the eye on Kayle´s head?
CenarX1 votesI feel you man.
Ult randomly won't give you stealth. AA randomly won't reset after Q. More than that, the AA WILL ACTUALLY GLITCH AND TALON WONT AA FOR 5 SECONDS LOLOLO. E randomly will make you jump in place or backwards. W angles are glitchy and randomly won't hit on the way back even if the animation went right through the enemy.
Talon is extremely broken. Unfortunately, not OP-broken.
ALMOST UNPLAYABLE-BROKEN. But who cares About Talon. Riot creates him, then forgot about him the next day, then remembered about him after 5 years, then forgot about him again.
They won't ever update his role to fit the Noxus role update lmao.