About assassins vs ADCs:

Penns·10/20/2017, 4:42:13 PM·47 votes·4,524 views

So Ive played mostly assassins for about 3+ years now and Im not going to pretend that I always die against adcs. We still often shit on 1-3 item adcs in a duel, and you could always die against a fed adc 1v1.

But there are 2 problems:

It happened A LOT more to me since the assassin update and even more since the crit buffs. Talon not having a high range blink anymore, Kat having her dagger mechanic, Fizz not being able to QR to hit his ult more easily, and so on.
A competent adc wont walk up to solo farm a lane against an assassin that he cant beat anyway / a competent support probably wont let them do it. And it got way harder to kill adcs when they are grouped because of all the new enchanter/tank support items.

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BigBellBrute10/20/2017, 5:35:36 PM23 votes

The bottom line is this. The ADCs demanded counter play to everything. They got it. And when you have counter play to everything, you're over powered.
Everyone else demanded counter play to assassins. They got it. And when every other class of character has counter play to you, you're under powered.

And forget the perfect world where every character has counterplay against every other character and is perfectly balanced. The only games where that is the case are the same exact character 100% stat wise just with different skins and attack animations.

Mizaya10/20/2017, 6:21:52 PM7 votes

Yesterday, I was playing Cait, and I was level 14 with item 3006 item 3094 item 3087 item 3031 item 3034 item 3072 . A level 13 Fizz with item 3020 item 3100 item 3135 item 1058 was able to deal just over half my health and all 300 of my BT shield with Q and empowered W, as he missed his E and ult. Had he hit his ult, i probably would have died.

He was at least 5k gold down, yet had he hit his ult he would have one shot me.

Ahris10/20/2017, 5:05:00 PM4 votes

The thing about adc which is broken is the fact that if you mess up as an assasin(lets be real assassins got a lot of counterplay now) adc can kill you. Adc shouldnt be able to kill you even if you mess up as ADC cannot mess up.

Edit: sure if adc messes up a lot they will dir, but they have way more impact than assassins. Adc can burst really hard on every auto while assassins can burst every couple of seconds with a good amount of counterplay.

It really depends what you consider fair or not. The very existence of adc is unfair and they shouldnt be doing crazy amount of damage as sustained damage champ.