This Is Why You Don't Let Spells Crit

Shuyin178··21 votes·1,918 views

Only abilities originally balanced around crit should ever crit, unless the crit value is lowered to like 50%-60%. (video credit to Vandiril) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FklWuUPu84Y

(3-24) PSA : This was reverted so no nuking with her W.

34 Comments

tXQbsPrjN55 votes

I like how this has to be explained to the balance team, because they can't fathom this themselves without putting it on the PBE. What? A 500 base 3 ad ration 2000 range spell shouldn't exist in the game? I don't know I think we need to test it out and see.

LordBrasca2 votes

Problem is, if that thing crits so much and you also get slowed, it will be extremely hard for you to dodge the incoming ult.

SwiftKitten888 votes

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Problem is, if that thing crits so much and you also get slowed, it will be extremely hard for you to dodge the incoming ult.

XD its like a pre-rework Nidalee that hits even except it hits even harder, slows and reveals, while also doing long range aoe 800 damage autos and/or crazy attack speed auto with a global ulti and a snare.

I was under the assumption riot had an internal test team before the put stuff on pbe... APPARENTLY i was wrong.

Papa Andrei2 votes

They said they will not be shipping it and its part of further testing, they wanted community feedback

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

The damage may be too high but the general idea is good. I like that riot is introducing new crit interactions in marksmen kits. They scale better than everyone else in the game with it that way, just like tanks scale with HP or armor/mr.

So I hope they will reduce the extra crit damage and then ship that change.

Papa Andrei2 votes

I feel like it is simply number fiddling now, like scale the crit/ad ratio with Jinx's level or crit chance.

Ahristocats2 votes

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unless the crit value is lowered to like 50%-60%.

what a coincidance, this is what they plan to do

K626 Lacrimosa2 votes

I mean, the crit is a good idea for a up, but the values are just currently too high that's all.

Oelyk1 votes

That felt... so weird... I mean normally you just dodge that because it's a pain to be slowed... but a long range DEATH THREAT? Whew! I've been around sense Jinx release and that's really something aint it.

Shuyin1781 votes

Honestly I think her W is now more scary than her ult if you're in range for it.

Irelia Bot1 votes

The best part is the other team having someone named "ADC in 2017 lol"

grug1 votes

ryze empowered overload is a spell crit, thought this was a ryze thread lul

Shuyin1781 votes

Ryze's Overload only gets that font with his empowered damage, same with Anivia's E. It's not an actual crit.

TeCoolMage1 votes

Only abilities originally balanced around crit should ever crit, unless the crit value is lowered to like 50%-60%.

or if the base damage and scaling is lowered. It just needs some changes with how the damage scales over time

Also, worst clickbait title ever

This is why you don't buff things They were balanced this way, they should never be buffed unless they get nerfed first

zlumpy1 votes

Right? I was expecting some crazy Anivia shenanigans with actual spell crit!

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Ryze

pre rework Poppy

that video is honestly as credible as brofresco on balance

Catastrop1 votes

I was expecting Anivia/Ryze hell even Karthus, I'm so glad it was none of them. That was hilarious.

Shuyin1781 votes

Why do people keep thinking those champions crit? It's only a font thing to show enhanced damage (Aniva's E when hitting Frosted targets, Ryze when hitting targets with E on them, and Karthus' Q when hitting a solo-target)

Albertoplus2 votes

Actually, at least since long ago (don't think they changed it) those spells get reduced effect by Randuins.

Rioter even said it was intentional.

Catastrop3 votes

Actually, that was changed a while back. Randuin's reduces the damage done by those hits so they are in fact crits.

Melledoneus4 votes

They are coded to be crits. Randuins' 10% crit damage reduction reduces the damage of those spells.

Who is Taliyah1 votes

but they didn't heal you with the old warlords mastery If I remember correctly.

Melledoneus2 votes

Warlords had two conditions, one being a basic attack.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Full crit damage runes veigar letsgoooo

4 Dee memes

underscores2221 votes

They still do double damage, so they're basically magic crits.

Anu3isII1 votes

Meddler said that the numbers are clearly broken, but they like the direction this change goes, so they will most probably just lower the bonus Damage from Criting W

6Sfool1 votes

I like the idea of spells critting, but god is that hard to balance. Plus that spell is already high damage. Things like MF's ult and q critting are great though, it gives her a reason to build crit when otherwise lethality would be the only way.

sobi9991 votes

That is what i call Outplayed!

Falling Ic31 votes

shorten the range on it so its not a fully charged xerath Q

Muzét1 votes

The issue isn't the crit. It's the 1.4 AD ratio behind it. Jinx always had a strong W because of this. The crit just point it out even more. I would be glad to see AP to be able to crit sometimes even if it reduced (since it's mostly AoE / DoT)

Ultra Rapid Fyre1 votes

its an april fools joke. riot does it every year... did you hit your head too much in your youth?

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

If only Azir soldiers could crit...

At least for this April Fools joke. Would be fun.

Marshbouy1 votes

welp i know who i'm banning next

Zephyrous X1 votes

The changes got reverted put down the pitchforks

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