I get that everyone hates Lee Sin and all that

RlP K0BE··2 votes·583 views

But why is Ivern getting a pass? The guy has a 58% win rate . How is this okay? I've seen one or two topics about him and thats it. Hell, let Yasuo Zed Riven Vayne LeeSin rise above a 52% win rate and the boards would be up in arms. I remember Sona had a similar win rate for a moment during s6 and there were multiple topics about how she needed to be brought back in line everyday. I get that LeeSin and Graves are the frontrunners when talking about op junglers but Ivern is right up there with them if not even worse.

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JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

Because ivern doesnt kill you, he just denies you kills and psychologically, it gets people less frustrated. It's easier to cry about lee killing you and shout "OP damage" than pin pointing what is off about ivern (his counter jungle? His shields? Cooldowns?)

SirΤeemο1 votes

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Fairyfleur1 votes

when did her Q not deal true damage on the way back?

Fairyfleur1 votes

Most of the playerbase sees very little or no Ivern, and he also isn't as frustrating to fight against compared to Graves or Lee Sin. However, Graves and Lee Sin are still issues, especially because of the two's high playrate and decent winrate.

Grimspeake1 votes

Because gameplay is mostly bronze retards who know nothing other then cod deathmatch

SoundChaosDebug1 votes

Ivern changes are gonna make him drop in win rate soon.

franchise76761 votes

what a dumb topic. most of tge player base plays in an elo where irven doesn't exist.

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