Yasuo Rework incoming.

The only players that actually want the rework, are these that can't play him/haven't played him, and always lose from Yasuos due to their lack of skill. Yasuo IS balanced IF you know how to play against him.

I don't think Yasuo should be reworked but if he does then please not a big thing, just do something like change his w only or e only or q only

It's not that we are any different than other mains that their champs got reworked... It's the reason of the rework.. Yasuo got reworked because people hate him I don't understand that. It's so tilting because the people complaining don't even take a look at the abilities or how yasuo can be countered and then they get destroyed by a yasuo Main that reads all the match ups, knows the champs ins and outs and put all that work and effort but the enemy just cries about how "broken and braindead" yasuo is.. You can down vote me and call me a toxic 10yr old yasuo Main retard kid, but everyone who likes to play yasuo will know this is true

I don't think he needs a rework. Just some small changes.

1. I think that the cooldowns on Sweeping Blade are a little too low. At high ranks, there's not enough window to hit him with skill shots before he can dash again. At 0.1 seconds, he's able to dash again before most people can even register and react to his position. (Average human reaction time to visual stimuli is ~0.25s.)

2. The crit chance doubling part of his passive doesn't need to exist. The Flow/Shield mechanic is enough. Raise his damage numbers a little bit and get rid of crit chance doubling. All it does is give him a predictable, stagnant build path.

i mean, im in bronze and he is rly broken in my elo bcs of his kit, but we in bronze dont know how to counter him that well, and a "good" yasuo player can destroy people 1v5 and i think he is quiet annoying to deal with in general, so i would like a rework

Here is my take on what I think about Yasuo. I don't think that he is either broken or under powered, but merely a "toxic champion" and I think the main reason why he is so is because of the mixture of his kit which makes him a pain for both sides of the map as well as playing as or against. When you're behind as Yasuo it feels as if there is nothing you can do, can't tank, waveclear. DPS. or farm meanwhile if a Yasuo is fed it feels as if you can face roll with him. The fact that Yasuo is supposed to be a high risk and high reward champion yet has an ability that flops or wins the game completely is the issue. That ability in my opinion is his windwall. Yasuo's other skills while people may agree or disagree along with his passive is acceptable and is fair game, but it is Yasuo's W is like a "helpless" factor. It either makes the person using it like the skill wasn't enough or that the skill makes certain people feel helpless. In my opinion a good change for Yasuo is to just change his Windwall ability to another utility skill that helps him. For example an immobility skill that slows champions likes Talon's old E did or a skill that prevents people from using movement abilities like Casseiopeias W does are some examples.

Yeah, this is a long time coming. This is well deserved, and no, not because I think he’s broken, nor do I have a hard time playing against him. I eat Yasuo’s for breakfast normally.

Yasuo’s problem is that he’s a “toxic” champion. Riot intended for him to be a high risk, high reward mobile carry, but the way they chose to facilitate his carry potential is inherently flawed. How, you might ask?

-Windwall is a “get-out-of-jail-free” card that is both far too powerful and way too forgiving. It has no cast time and comes from within his own hit box, allowing him to block attacks that are practically on top of him and should be dealing damage. It also lasts a hideous amount of time.

-Flow I don’t have a problem with at its core, but much like Pantheon’s passive, it’s both up way too often and does too much. In Yasuo’s case , his flow shield lasts a bit too long in my opinion.

-His dash is essentially a free zoning tool in combination with his other utility. A high risk champion should NOT have zoning as a strength, but rather, a weakness

All in all, he’s not fun or interesting to play against. When I win, he’s literally just free gold. When I lose, I feel like I’m being beaten by a bundle of gimmicks instead of being outplayed or outskilled.

And i quote from a Yasuo main. get a load of this. "I SPEND I LOT OF TIME TO MASTER HIM WITH 300 K MP AND SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO BUY ALL SKINS FOR YASUO..GG YASUO REWORK =I QUIT LOL GG I GO PLAY MINECRAFT FFS".

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Jt17gARA-yasuo-rework-u-kidding-me

My guess is that the rework for low ELO: -Will destroy every yasuo cheese pick (people who pick Yas because they can abuse him in low ELO) -Will help everyone experienced with Yasuo.

Which is perfect.

For starters, we can have the windwall not spawn on top of him so he can't panic W and block everything. There needs to be some window of vulnerability. Overall he needs to be LESS GOLD EFFICIENT because he's the most gold efficient in the game and that causes problems in lower ELO.

I would like to see Yasuo's wind wall duration changed, starting at 0.5s at rank 1, and 2s at rank 4. Riot wants to promote variety in game play, but having a 4s wind wall at rank 1 means that Yasuo will never have incentive to max wind wall first. Also, 4 seconds is far too forgiving in a game supposedly all about skill, it should be an ability that requires proper timing, like Fiora's Riposte, instead of something that sits there for the entire duration of a fight.

Edit: I scrolled down the comments and honestly don't understand what is this "high learning curve on Yasuo" people keep bragging about. Yasuo players thrive in silver and bronze the most, and I don't think bronze Yasuo players have more mechanical skill than the other players. What is so difficult about learning how to use a point-and-click dash, a super-long-range ultimate, a super-forgiving wind wall that lasts 4 seconds, and a Q that basically has no CD, on a champion that uses no mana? Even Yasuo's built-in knock up can be guaranteed when used together with his E, making it a point-and-click knock up. Of course better players can get even more out of his kit, but that is true for every champion.

Hey Yasuo main here I usually go top with Yasuo and most of the time I win it's not that he is overpowered people just need to learn how to deal with him throw in an Annie that'll take care of him. Plus he is very high skill capped which I think really balances him out

Yasuo is perfecrtly balanced and fine the way he is. People don't hate him, they simply hate being killed by a yasuo player. Any champion controled by a decent player who then gets ahead or fed in game can and will be strong. The only reason his ban rate is so high is because of low elo players whom consistes of like 80% or 90% of Leagues community. He is hard too main, has many possibilites or tricks to learn, he is so fun to play, outplays juste feel amazing when you manage to do so and watching other player is so nice, literaly beautiful.

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What are some changes you guys would like to see?

• No more 0 CD dash. It is the most toxic ability in the game. It allows him to remove interaction from many situations. The biggest change to his kit should be figuring out what kind of tool he can have instead.
• Either remove or rework Windwall, or make Yasuo use mana. The fact that he can react to mana abilities with a free ability that totally nullifies them is patently unfair in lane to many champions. He should need to spend mana for this power or the power should be significantly weakened and be more like Braum's shield. Flow can still be there like how Annie has her stun bar under her mana bar.
• Move the double crit chance from his passive to Last Breath. Instead of giving his crits armor pen, he gets doubled crit chance for 15 seconds. This goes with Riot's philosophy that champions should have meaningful downtime.
• Last Breath does half damage to secondary targets. Yasuo is too overbearing in situations when he's snowballing because he can solo kill several enemies at once using this move that is both CC and burst damage and gives him a power boost after it. The AoE damage should be toned down without nerfing his 1v1 potential.

With those changes I believe he'd need baseline stat buffs but I'd be totally ok with that exchange because his kit is fundamentally game warping from its mechanics.

I think Yasuo is basically not a champ, that fitts in the overall rock-paper-scissors category that were used too think about. You know that a melee champ has disadvantages vs range champs, mainly because of the early pressure you can develop on the lane. If you play Riven toplane and i play Jayce toplane, while assuming we have the same skilllevel - i will crush you until the midgame, thats just a fact.

Yasuo sitts on a 57% (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) winrate on toplane, while we consider him as a "hard to play" champion. He doesnt have any "good matchups" toplane, because he is mainly vs counters like tanks or hard cc bruisers (renek, grag). This doesnt fitt together AT ALL.

Riot just made Yasuo/Riven skin BECAUSE they're picked very often to make money out of it, but this is just how it goes every time if you didnt realize it. Any champ that got cancerous and had a high playrate got a skin, and months later he got nerfed. Do you think this just happened coincidentally?

Riot exactly knows what theyre doing and i wouldnt go too far when i assume, they made him that strong to generate that money.

Has the rework already been made?

My guess is that they'll look for a way to: -increase his windows of vulnerability during the laning phase -buff late game team fight durability.

Increase cooldown or reduce early game values on the shield; increase late game values on the shield. Something like that.

Maybe they'll even break down and tie windwall to flow (make it eat a percentage of his flow that decreases as you level it). That would be pretty extreme, but I could see Riot doing it.

Unless he's super fed, Yasuo feels pretty weak to me late game. But he can be pretty annoying to lane against, for the reasons everyone complains about (high mobility + shield + wind wall makes it hard for certain champions to interact with him).

Nothing should be changed on yasuo.

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What are some changes you guys would like to see?

please please do a real yasuo rework

ty riot i aprecciate this

Gets Ryze rework flashbacks

I rly love this champ..i dont know to play him very well..i can t counter him..but is veeery funn to play with him..even u win or loose..is very funn..hasaky..today i bought nightbringer..this champ is my favourite ..why to rework him..just bcs someone and some players cry when a 12 years old main yas press ctrl6 when they make a kill..i want to this rework to fail bcs i looveee yasuo so much..is more than funn..is yasuo.when u think about yasuo u smile..this rework is a sheeet..fk u riot if u ll rework yas Ps..i have not a good english..i know.. ANYONE WHO WANT NOT THIS REWORK..WRITE A COMM AND MAYBE RITO WILL MAK E NOT THIS FKING IDIOT REWORK..#YASUOISLIFE****