There needs to be SOMETHING you can do to avoid Fiddle's bullshit crow

Mindzur·1/3/2019, 3:02:59 AM·20 votes·7,275 views

Playing ADC against this horrible design is so fucking cancer it's unreal. In 3 crows you'll be half health, and guess what you can do to dodge them? Literally just not exist. Not existing is LITERALLY the only way you can avoid them. If you are ANYWHERE near where they can hit they WILL bounce to you and fuck you in the ass. It's stupid shit design that should be fixed.

30 Comments

Sewer Side1/3/2019, 8:20:15 AM6 votes

Don’t most Fiddle supports max Fear though?

Dark Wind’s range isn’t good, so Fiddle relies bouncing it off minions. The priority for Dark Wind in a creep wave is rather erractic but basically it doesn’t prioritize champions who have been hit already, so as long as you have 2+ minions, it will only tag you once if you back off. Bouncing it in a full creep wave means you have a good chance it won’t even hit you.

There’s no reliable way he’s doing half HP unless you’re making an actual concentrated effort for it to bounce solely between you and 1 ally, which I’d say is fair with how much you can already do to negate the ability.

MrHaZeYo1/3/2019, 3:08:11 AM5 votes

I see where you're coming from, but some champs actually do have spells to counter them lol. Sivir E, Bruam W, Yas W, Fizz E, Fiora W, Yi Q, Zed R, Kayn R, Elise Spider E, Morg E (kind of), Liss self R, Eve R,

Overall though yes it is super annoying to deal with as a Mid laner or a bot laner.

Hethalean1/3/2019, 3:06:24 AM5 votes

they at least see through obscure from akali :)

kurufal1/3/2019, 3:31:13 AM5 votes

Honestly, I think they should extend the Silence duration and make it so that the Silence only hits the original intended target. It would make it a little more manageable and less about RNG. Make Fiddle think about who he's going to cast it on instead of just throwing it into a team fight and smashing his face on the keyborad while he zhonyas.

Copic1/3/2019, 3:28:24 AM3 votes

I find his insta-cast, undodgable point and click 2.5 second fear to be far more annoying.

Rester1/3/2019, 3:36:16 AM3 votes

I've never had issues with his crows. If anything his fear always cucks me. The best way to counter the crows (E) this is to play smart and don't sit behind minions if you see his cast animation go off. If you're grouped with your support in a 2v2 scenario and crows bounce I can't really tell ya what to do there unless you want to be smart and split off.

All in all Fid support is a niche pick, it's fun to play and can punish people who don't respect his crows or know how to play around it.

Agent Corgi1/3/2019, 6:18:02 AM3 votes

He can use his [E:Dark Wind] to sniff out people hiding in Bushes. You can be sitting in an unwarded bush & Fiddles crow will just go "Yo, Taric's in that bush. Don't go near it, he'll stun you."

Dracocrash1/3/2019, 8:23:40 AM3 votes

Brand does the same thing tho, except his damage doesn't fall of hard and he can burst even tanks

Warlord Rhinark1/3/2019, 9:05:35 AM3 votes

There is.

Don't stand next to any allied units.

AlienPrimate1/3/2019, 9:11:31 AM3 votes

It really isn't that hard to manage. Just start Doran's Shield and walk away from allied targets when he casts it. I have never had a problem facing him as a support main because I have always had an ADC who understands that when he presses E we just need to walk away from each other and we will only be hit by a single bounce keeping the damage at a minimum.

MorgManBasher1/3/2019, 2:19:01 PM3 votes

Literally just all in him and murder him

Fiddle's worst nightmare is Alistar Not only does he knock fiddle away when he ults in, but can also R and remove fiddle fear unlike Janna so he can instantly knock fiddle away when he ults. Also of course fiddle is squishy unless he goes aftershock, so it's incredibly easy to CC and focus him and even if that doesn't workout you have alistar's healing to keep you topped off when being poked by e.

Dynikus1/3/2019, 3:08:51 AM2 votes

I don't even have a counter argument, his crows are complete bullshit that make me hate playing against him, even if he's not strong.

Disulfiram1/3/2019, 9:27:02 AM2 votes

If you could avoid it then it would need to do way more damage or have way more CC in order for Fiddle to remain balanced.

Bârd1/4/2019, 1:09:03 AM1 votes

There is.

  • Don't stand within 750 units of Fiddle.
  • Don't stand within 450 units of your creep wave.

If you don't feel like doing that, you can mitigate it.

  • Buy a second Dorans blade.
  • Run Lifeline+Fleet Footwork.
  • Draft a healer as your support.
  • Have your support buy Targons.

Plus, since he's Fiddle and is made of glass...

  • Kill his ass if he tries anything.
Tahminatrix 1/3/2019, 3:06:41 AM1 votes

I just hate it when he crows me directly and does +100 damage at like lvl 4 without it bouncing because he has comet or aery or something easy and safe to proc and my mr runes don't cut it.

I get that fiddle needs something safe and consistent but he already has his w and q, why not have his crow power up or even split up into a swarm each time it bounces but do less damage on the first hit (unless its on a large or epic jg monster)

Maybe riot just wants his whole kit to stay alittle consistent because most of it is safe and having any huge potential on any of his abilities would be too much.

14daysuspensionk1/3/2019, 2:03:17 PM1 votes

It should be a skillshot.

King Livid1/3/2019, 6:09:02 AM1 votes

Ban or Dodge

Snowdrift1/4/2019, 1:28:53 AM1 votes

I really hate that I can’t use unwarded bushes to counter it, it will still bounce to you; giving you away. However on support wages any bit of early MR will nullify a good bit of his damage despite the fact it delays your scaling but in this matchup merch treads are prettty solid