Kha'Zix is WAYYYYYYY too safe and WAYYYYYY too easy for the damage he puts out.

Mindzur··43 votes·15,319 views

Literally 4 escapes (one that fucking resets for ultra fucking bullshit) in case he fucks up on top of a fucking kit that literally as long as his Q button doesn't break he gets to get kills with no skill involved. For a champion that one shots people with the simplest kit in the game he's ultra god damn fucking safe on top of it and it's actually fucking .

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Bladerunner777725 votes

Keep in mind that Kha'zix damage may only seem easy because a good Kha'zix player will only fight when his targets are isolated/low health.

Plus, Kha'zix is an assassin. Part of an assassin's toolkit is to have a high amount of mobility and burst damage. Kha'zix still explodes when focused/cc'd, so he's not "too safe" yet.

Poske13 votes

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Keep in mind that Kha'zix damage may only seem easy because a good Kha'zix player will only fight when his targets are isolated/low health.

Plus, Kha'zix is an assassin. Part of an assassin's toolkit is to have a high amount of mobility and burst damage. Kha'zix still explodes when focused/cc'd, so he's not "too safe" yet.

Kha zix seems easy because he is easy

A7X Kindred2 votes

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Kha zix seems easy because he is easy

Kha'zix easy lmao

WoΘxer3 votes

assassins must have counterplay he have none, neither Rengar, especially Rengar.

ModPeriscope16 votes

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Dracocrash14 votes

"my champion is hard so it should output more damage!!!!"

LTK KoRo13 votes

-Every Riven main, probably

Scryble3 votes

You aren't wrong and I hate that you aren't wrong.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Actually, sometimes I just wanna have a little more health. :(

Dyrreah1 votes

So exact.

Hügö3 votes

The exact same thing I wrote under naother "kha op post", you shall get my upvote.

Monstermushmush10 votes

I guess... But half the time the K6 in my game just feeds and sucks when it comes to late game. But when the time he is fed, it's very oppressive. But again, most of the time, K6 doesn't evolve his ult, so it's down to 3 escapes(excluding resets). Still strong. You're right, he might be a bit too strong.

Edit: But then again... Aren't a ton of champs oppressive when ahead? Riven? Jax? Irelia? Evelynn? It's not just K6. But instead of K6's escapes, he's very squishy. If you CC him or use oracles, you can catch him and kill him pretty easily. And btw, he's garbage when behind.

Juice2 votes

Renekton? What are you talking about

How is Renekton "oppressive" when ahead?

Even when he is ahead you just cc him once and he is useless, or just press red smite on him and kill him 1v1 even if he is 3 levels higher than you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwC25X4nwcg

Look how oppressive this 180 farm lv14 Renekton is to this lv11 udyr

Why didn't you list some champs who are actually oppressive when ahead instead of Renekton such as Vladimir, Kled, Mordekaiser, Evelynn, Udyr, RENGAR, Irelia, Akali, CAMILLE ?

How exactly are Renekton's linear, predictable gap closer and single target nuke oppressive when you can build an item that blocks 36% of his damage (HELLO NINJA TABI!)

Monstermushmush10 votes

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Renekton? What are you talking about

How is Renekton "oppressive" when ahead?

Even when he is ahead you just cc him once and he is useless, or just press red smite on him and kill him 1v1 even if he is 3 levels higher than you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwC25X4nwcg

Look how oppressive this 180 farm lv14 Renekton is to this lv11 udyr

Why didn't you list some champs who are actually oppressive when ahead instead of Renekton such as Vladimir, Kled, Mordekaiser, Evelynn, Udyr, RENGAR, Irelia, Akali, CAMILLE ?

How exactly are Renekton's linear, predictable gap closer and single target nuke oppressive when you can build an item that blocks 36% of his damage (HELLO NINJA TABI!)

Whoa, sorry i offended you... It was just off the top of my head lol. I guess I'll change my post again...

LTK KoRo2 votes

You got downvoted for saying sorry, boards are even more stupid than i thought

Brain Errör 4045 votes

Renekton is unbearably as oppressive as the other champs when ahead. <Removed by Moderation>, doesn't make him any less of an oppressive champ.

SaltyCauseBad4 votes

Best thing is, good renektons will do their entire combo while your in their 1.5 second W cc and backout with their double fash. Repeat that one or two more times with ignite and you have yourself a kill

IP Masquerena3 votes

Also he showed it vs an Udyr, like, that guy gets close to you, stuns you with an undodgeable stun then bursts you like no other.

Also, do note that that Udyr had both Red Smite and Ninja Tabi to lower Rene's damage to him, while Rene had no defense, full damage. If Rene had a Tabis, he would've maybe won that.

Morale of the story kids: never go full damage.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Yeah, but that renekton actually played that so poorly. After getting out of tower range with first E, all he had to do was press ulti and all in. He lost that because he literally did NOT fight back. Not even one auto. Dude tries to all in after he's already dead. Anyone would win that if the opponent doesnt fight back. Lol.

Ranmaru1 votes

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Renekton is unbearable as oppressive as the other champs when ahead. Just cause you suck on Ren, doesn't make him any less of an oppressive champ.

read your name

Brain Errör 4041 votes

What's my name have to do with anything?

Ranmaru1 votes

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What's my name have to do with anything?

Brain Errör 404

ModArticus431 votes

[{quoted}](name=Brain Errör 404,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9U6WNKes,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-01-03T12:48:34.436+0000)

Renekton is unbearably as oppressive as the other champs when ahead.<Removed by Moderation>, doesn't make him any less of an oppressive champ.

You can make your point without being condescending. Anything further will result in escalated action.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Woah, that seems highly moderated. I didn't realize calling someone bad with a champion was considered condescending now. And there's a punishment attached to it now? Golly batman. Okay.

kingDeDeDarius3 votes

Very true

Copic5 votes

my problem is the Dark Harvest Auto attack duskblade passive steroid followed by an instant Q.

GrReaper968 votes

Bu dark harvest doesnt work like that anymore....

IG Ziko4 votes

I lost hope in these boards. Anyone gets smashed by champion now can make a thread and cry even if that champion was Sona.

Meritas2 votes

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I lost hope in these boards. Anyone gets smashed by champion now can make a thread and cry even if that champion was Sona.

"AP Sona 2-shotting me is a proof that the DAMAGE IS TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW!"

Abibyama II6 votes

"I spilled my coffee BECAUSE OF THE HIGH DAMAGE META"

Fire Blaustoise3 votes

i lost hope since age... but kha is really insane atm (granted i dont think he's an issue for this board honestly).

SaltyCauseBad3 votes

Yah, damage is too high but in some cases you deserve to be one shot.

Crying when a Sona that had item 3089 item 3003 item 3135 item 3100 deleted an adc thats 2/7 is just stupid

Jeanne fan club3 votes

"IsOlaTeD" BTW

The Highest Noon3 votes

Khazix isn't doing crazy damage unless you're caught out or he's fed. If you're caught out then he's supposed to be doing that damage and if he's fed...either way, there's no argument lol

Charmy Bird1 votes

ye like the first encounter in the scuttle

The Highest Noon2 votes

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ye like the first encounter in the scuttle

Guess that just means you'll have to play differently against a Khazix lol

Gatherer2 votes

I can agree on the damage part. Its because Duskblade gives so easy such a big burst. You can kill him easily if you stay grouped with the team. Also with the amount of cc there is on the game its easy to chain cc him.

Vile Odium2 votes

yeah kha is disgusting and needs nerfs + duskblade asap.

Dr Dog2 votes

untill your not isolated and he does dogshit dmg? his draw back is any sort of grouping in fights can RUIN kha no matter how fed with his trade off being some of the best single target dmg in the game when your alone, his e only resets after its upgraded and with his w rn he usually upgrades e last at level 16 and his ult is honestly used as a passive reset and re-positioning tool, kha zix is pretty overtuned rn but it just seems like you got fucked over by a good kha

Bronze GOAT2 votes

The reason he's so damn strong is because no one picks defensive champions anymore. They don't pick big CC tanks, sups, nothing, just DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE. And Kha LOVES it!

CapnMorganFr3man2 votes

My favorite part of these vent posts are when I op.gg op's account and see he's never played the champion he's ranting about a day in his life but acts like he still knows what he's talking about

KennysDreamGirl2 votes

kha zix isn't that safe. the only safe assassin I can think of is zed or lb.

goodiesohhi1 votes

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kha zix isn't that safe. the only safe assassin I can think of is zed or lb.

Ekko and Fizz?

HideSide1 votes

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Ekko and Fizz?

Necrology -_-

kingDeDeDarius2 votes

Honestly, I don't mind kha one bit. He's squishy, easier to cc than most assassins, usually more easy to itemize against, and has actual weaknesses, as opposed to be champs like pyke, fix, zed, kayn, talon, etc

Mc Raton1 votes

To be honest, new Dark Harvest is bullshit on Kha'Zhix. Let's look at his passive, it's basically a duskblade in his passive. But it doesn't stop there, he also happen to build Duskblade, so basically everytime he R to stealth and apply his passive, he also apply duskblade so it's a lot of damage from his passive and 1 item.. he also have a gap closer that if evolved reset on kill so since his passive,mixed with Duskblade and Dark Harvest apply, he basically 3/4 the HP of a squishy and that's without his Q. If he Q and his target is alone, it's basically over before they can say ''Oof''. He also have innate sustain and his Q refund 60% of it's cooldown on takedown. Basically he use it as finisher to get reset and go over and over again. The fact that he can also stealth up to 3 time for 2 second each is insane, he can negate CC and jump away. He is indeed too safe but also deal way to much damage overall. Kha'Zhix was fine, so every assasins BEFORE the Duskblade appearance. This item broke the assassins meta and make them overbearing until today. This item does the same issue Death Fire Grasp caused on AP assassins back then. Overbearing without real counterplay. Yes tank kinda deny this , I agree, but who play tank nowadays thanks to skirmirsher with Conqueror. Basically nobody. Sejuani is in the dust for a while and until they do something about it, Assassins/Skirmisher/Diver will take the spotlight but a good way to help is to remove Duskblade alltogether. This item need to go.

Mc Raton1 votes

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To be honest, new Dark Harvest is bullshit on Kha'Zhix. Let's look at his passive, it's basically a duskblade in his passive. But it doesn't stop there, he also happen to build Duskblade, so basically everytime he R to stealth and apply his passive, he also apply duskblade so it's a lot of damage from his passive and 1 item.. he also have a gap closer that if evolved reset on kill so since his passive,mixed with Duskblade and Dark Harvest apply, he basically 3/4 the HP of a squishy and that's without his Q. If he Q and his target is alone, it's basically over before they can say ''Oof''. He also have innate sustain and his Q refund 60% of it's cooldown on takedown. Basically he use it as finisher to get reset and go over and over again. The fact that he can also stealth up to 3 time for 2 second each is insane, he can negate CC and jump away. He is indeed too safe but also deal way to much damage overall. Kha'Zhix was fine, so every assasins BEFORE the Duskblade appearance. This item broke the assassins meta and make them overbearing until today. This item does the same issue Death Fire Grasp caused on AP assassins back then. Overbearing without real counterplay. Yes tank kinda deny this , I agree, but who play tank nowadays thanks to skirmirsher with Conqueror. Basically nobody. Sejuani is in the dust for a while and until they do something about it, Assassins/Skirmisher/Diver will take the spotlight but a good way to help is to remove Duskblade alltogether. This item need to go.

Nobody even read my comment [sg-zephyr]

LunarFoxz1 votes

One word Teamfights

WoΘxer1 votes

Team fights when Kha'Zix is ahead team fights are too late or we ain't reaching Teamfight stage.

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