"ADCs just one shots everyone"

Elohaven·Jan 7, 2018·10 votes·1,565 views

Me: "Can we see the game?" Them: "You don't need to. They're obviously OP. Plus I don't need a replay." Me: "But for a one-shot to happen from an ADC, they have to kill you in one auto-attack and you most likely don't have armor" Them: "Why should ADCs one-shot squishies? That's an assassin's job." Me: "Were you behind?" Them: "No. Lmao. I was positive" Me: "Can you show the game? Maybe the gold income? They were fed." Them: "Even if ADCs are fed, I shouldn't be dead in one shot. They're broken"

Enemy ADC: 17/2/8 Them: 5/4/7 Their Ally: 0/14/2

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

27 Comments

vgamedudeJan 7, 20182 votes

But if Zoe "one shots" with her E, Q and lichbane esq passive it's broken and a real one shot ya?

ShiniXIIJan 7, 20183 votes

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ŚhunpoJan 7, 20181 votes

Actually, I had an 0/5 Zoe "support" in my game one time. She had only a Lost Chapter and Revolver at level 8, and she almost one shot a level 14 Vayne who was 5/0.

So yeah, that's why Zoe's one shots are broken, because she can do them consistently even when behind.

HügöJan 7, 20181 votes

But when she hits her bubble and then the q it's not a real one shot?

Plastic 5 ADCJan 7, 20181 votes

Insert thank you GIF here.

Ahri BakaJan 7, 20182 votes

Almost Everyone in this game that isn't a mage can actually 1 shot , but for an adc to 1 shoot , they should be going item 3142 item 3147 item 3814 item 3087 and 2 levels ahead , to be honest adc aren't the only problem , and not all adc can do that , only few ones such as a headshot from Caitlyn , Jhin 's 4th bullet , Vayne Ult + Q besides , adc aren't broken imo , if an assassin build that build , they can literally 1 shoot too , so , the only annoying thing about adc is that they are ranged so

ŚhunpoJan 7, 20181 votes

So, when Riot went through the assassin rework because "instant burst is not healthy" why is it that ADCs are allowed to retain their ability to insta-burst?

Ahri BakaJan 7, 20181 votes

Like I said , only few adc are able to 1 shoot , and they are most likely 4 , with a specific build anyway , and it's assassins build but being done a special passive , while assassins can literally 1 shoot with the same items

ŚhunpoJan 8, 20181 votes

Yeah, assassins can also one shot with a crit. build, however they're not ranged.

Ahri BakaJan 8, 20181 votes

Do they really need to be ranged to kill? they are nightmares anyway Kha doesn't range , he can use ult and pop up next to you and 1 shoot before you can even react , Zed too Rengar too but his ult kind of makes you get ready before , but he can still do a great damage anyway

ŚhunpoJan 8, 20181 votes

When someone who can 1 shot is ranged that kinda eliminates the counterplay of kiting their engage tools....

Ahri BakaJan 8, 20181 votes

Ranged can't 1 shoot unless they are those 4 champions :/ and if they go that build , they will be useless especially against tanks , their items are to kill 1 target

CatastrophicJan 7, 20182 votes

This is in my highlights folder titled "Balanced.Webm" https://imgur.com/bwxApo4

Sorry for the poor quality, this is my first gif creation

ElohavenJan 7, 20181 votes

No actual armor item against a lategame ADC. No - ninja tabis doesn't count. It's a Caitlyn with a headshot passive ready. Of course it'll chunk you.

CatastrophicJan 7, 20181 votes

what happened to "ADCs don't oneshot" ? They only oneshot you if you're not a tank?

EDIT: Not to mention she was no ANY (not "actual") armor item against a lategame ADC. It's a gangplank with a barrel, crit, and ~~trinity force proc~~ Q ability.

ElohavenJan 7, 20181 votes

Except the fact she has a shield from thresh and bloodthirster you forgot to mention. You also did not Q her. You Q'd Thresh.

And ADCs usually two or three shot if the enemy isn't lifestealing or has some sort of sustain/shielding/protection against them as a squishy.

[sg-miss-fortune]

LauchmelderJan 7, 20182 votes

{quoted} And ADCs usually two or three shot if the enemy isn't lifestealing or has some sort of sustain/shielding/protection against them as a squishy.

And this is the problem. ADCs should be considered DPS, not a kind of "I'll DPS the tank and 2-shot their squishies" damage source. ADCs shouldn't do x amount of damage, they should deal x% of targets maxHP damage with resistances working off that. An ADC should never crit you for a third or even half your HP if you're a squishy.

Crit needs to go.

ElohavenJan 8, 20181 votes

Make a thread on Gameplay about removing crit.

I would love to see it if you actually see it as an issue.

CatastrophicJan 8, 20181 votes

You're in denial, it's okay.

ElohavenJan 8, 20181 votes

Watch the replay and come tell me if I'm wrong.

Cry somewhere else.

[sg-miss-fortune]

ŚhunpoJan 7, 20182 votes

No %%%%. People gave assassins a bad rap because they were one-shotting, as a result Riot has this vendetta against insta-burst, and funnily enough ADCs have flown completely under the radar for the entirety of this game's history in relation to this.

I'm noting this because people have openly said that they think insta-burst is unfair (especially with the assassin class), no matter how fed someone is, especially targeted burst. ADCs have insta-burst in the form of TARGETED auto attacks, hence why they're unhealthy if you look at it from that perspective.

Additionally, crits in general aren't very healthy due to them being RNG AND extremely volatile and/or unforgiving.

koshkyraJan 7, 20181 votes

Nobody has ever said an ADC can oneshot. The vast majority of the boards say they can 3 shot, or 2 shot in very rare cases. I have no clue why this is being upvoted for spreading lies.

LightIsMyPathJan 7, 20181 votes

Keep pretending you don't know that "one-shot" is actually used to describe 1 combo that 100-0 or a series of attacks fast enough to don't let the enemy time to do anything. Sure the literal meaning would be "one attack" but it's mostly not used that way. The other day I saw an Evelyn try to assassinate an Ashe. Too bad she was sitting near a pink so the moment she approached she received a crystal arrow to the face and died before the cc could wear off. Now, would you count the number of autoattacks Ashe used to describe the fact?

ElohavenJan 7, 20181 votes

That's simply good warding. The ADC did well. The Evelynn should have checked her duskblade passive.

LightIsMyPathJan 7, 20181 votes

Well I thank you since the Ashe was played by me but Evelyn doesn't buy duskblade cause she's an AP assassin not AD..

ElohavenJan 7, 20181 votes

I was thinking about old Evelynn for a second.

But it's really just good warding and positioning. Evelynn can delete a squishy pretty fast