I am going to LOVE the patch rundown

Literal Hitler··199 votes·6,809 views

Them trying to explain 5.16 will be absolutely hilarious.

cough

103 Comments

The Red Warden82 votes

The PBE is for expiramentation and anything there is up to change, as long as it involves reddit and lee sin. Anything else will stay no matter how valid the argument against it.

At Riot we arn't always right, but we sure as shit like to think we are.

ArkenStorm25 votes

meanwhile lee sin gets 15/18/21% of bonus health as physical damage tacked on when his ult target hits somebody else. wtf rito

The Red Warden20 votes

Just remember that the enemy jungler gets more gold than usual because you commited the terrible sin of wanting to play as Skarner.

Malicious Fury4 votes

Unless they only get gold for capturing an already captured rock, instead of a neutral one.

AmazingGoat3 votes

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might posit that this change seems designed to discourage anyone from playing a cinderhulk jungler at Worlds, thus encouraging the play of more blood thirsty junglers... Then again, I'm not sure how devourer plays into this theory, as devourer stacking certainly isn't compelling to watch.

Dulce Dama39 votes

"Today riot has officially deleted Garen lets take a moment of silence....." <----what i would give to hear them say this.

SeductiveGrandpa6 votes

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"Today riot has officially deleted Garen lets take a moment of silence....." <----what i would give to hear them say this.

Noice pun, m8, noice.

FarRockBF3 votes

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"Today riot has officially deleted Garen lets take a moment of silence....." <----what i would give to hear them say this.

And Teemo. And Armor.

YCitizenSnipsY54 votes

Make sure that moment of silence doesn't last too long or else they might have to nerf its duration as well.

I'll see myself out.

Count Buffon3 votes

This month, we turn to Demacia! Garen is dead, and therefore cannot be played. You have one week to play a matchmade game as Garen or else you lose his current default skin forever.

TurquoiseYoshi35 votes

Take a shot every time somebody says "This is a large buff to marksmen/ADCs", or "This is a large nerf to tanks".

BetaDude4040 votes

My blood is now alcohol.

Send help.

junglerboy166 votes

100% BAC, 500Xs the legal limit, the point at which you start to ferment by breathing.

BetaDude403 votes

Well, that explains the SWAT team...

Also I smell really, really sweet.

Chatillon3 votes

"Yeah, the tank nerf is terrible!.... I mean..." stares at everyone for a long, uncomfortable moment, moves outside quickly. Checks to see if anyone is looking and fist pumps. Goes home and plays jinx, dreaming about 5.16 that night

BastionKross35 votes

"Greetings summoners!

For patch 5.16, we're rolling out some changes to get us ready for worlds! First up, Lee Sin gets buffs because he hasn't been seen in nearly every game in months. We feel like he can offer so much to impress the mouthbreathers in the crowd, and gave him a leg up to dominate the meta once again. Also, we all know that the last couple of months has been pretty great as far as diversity goes (remember the diversity dirigible? Yeah, we crashed that mother right into the ground this patch) but we just can't have tanky champions all over the place. They tend to put the people watching the game to sleep! So we're getting rid of those unflashy disgraces with broad nerfs to armor and tank itemization. Goodbye entire role, hello lots of people dying in a quarter of a second. Those are the flashy plays we like to see at worlds!

We also have included the Juggernaut update this patch. For those of you that don't know, our Juggernaut update has two main goals:

  1. Make Garen, Darius, Skarner, and Mordekaiser more unique.
  2. Nerf those four bastards to the point no one will play them.

We feel like we've mostly succeeded at those goals (although Darius may need more tweaking as he still might see play) so we're pretty confident in releasing these changes now.

Finally, and this is our biggest change, we're effectively ending the PBE. The PBE was put in place to find bugs, test new mechanics, and gather player feedback. Since we at Riot haven't used the PBE for any of those things in a couple years, we decided it wasn't worth the hassle anymore. We would like to thank all the players that have participated in the PBE over the years. Any new champion, map, game, etc. updates will be posted about on Reddit instead. Maybe the actual League forums as well, but only if we can be bothered.

Patrick "Scarizard" Scarborough"

grumpyfrogy27 votes

i wont be surprised if they didnt even make a 5.16 patch rundown because they dont know how to explain it

ForPortal8 votes

The patch notes are just an image macro of a guy shrugging.

Manwalrus24 votes

"We're buffing MR, but it's such a meaningless buff we may as well not have, we're also nerfing the shit out of all the armor items for no reason. We did an okay job on Darius, destroyed Garen, gave skarner some rocks and turned morde into a bruiser/tank/adc... Also we've gave certainlyT the ability to do whatever the hell he wants." -Rito on 5.16

Meep Man2 votes

{quoted}

"We're buffing MR, but it's such a meaningless buff we may as well not have, we're also nerfing the shit out of all the armor items for no reason. We did an okay job on Darius, destroyed Garen, gave skarner some rocks and turned morde into a bruiser/tank/adc... Also we've gave certainlyT the ability to do whatever the hell he wants." -Rito on 5.16

The main thing coming out of 5.16 is a happy armordillo with the Thornmail changes.

honorspell4 votes

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The main thing coming out of 5.16 is a happy armordillo with the Thornmail changes.

this may be the only upside. in fact this may be the only way to win in our current devourer/farm/be-a-douche meta without using devourer.

Matezoide6 votes

{quoted}

"We're buffing MR, but it's such a meaningless buff we may as well not have, we're also nerfing the shit out of all the armor items for no reason. We did an okay job on Darius, destroyed Garen, gave skarner some rocks and turned morde into a bruiser/tank/adc... Also we've gave certainlyT the ability to do whatever the hell he wants." -Rito on 5.16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM4wXmuea-Q

I fucking love when people refer to Skarner's passive as ''A rock''. Theres so much stuff you can post as a reply for laughs!

46104328_DEL2 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM4wXmuea-Q

I fucking love when people refer to Skarner's passive as ''A rock''. Theres so much stuff you can post as a reply for laughs!

They're not wrong though. They're small, round, and useless.

Count Buffon19 votes

Skarner "We thought that people aren't blaming the jungler nearly enough lately, so we took an unpopular champion and changed his passive so that he buffs the enemy team."

Mordekaiser "We have no idea how to make other roles attractive enough to challenge the bot lane meta, so we pigeonholed the crap out of this guy into a lane that was never his to begin with. We thought about maybe letting the rising popularity of marksmen in mid and top lanes mature a bit and seeing how it goes from there, but screw it. This guy is going to get reworked from the ground up in a season or two anyway, so might as well show some #trollpride."

Vellich0r2 votes

buffs enemy team by having vision of all neutral objectives and a natural advantage anytime an invade happens on either side of the jungle or an objective is taken

Like seriously, the rocks are weird, yes, but they in no way buff the enemy team. The only person who can get buffed is skarner unless they try and invade him, but that being said, they would be invading skarner, who is already an incredibly good duelist, while he has a massive attack speed and movement speed buff and they are in vision of scarers team, and skarner has an easy to land stun and slow that will keep them still long enough for his team to destroy said person. It is a weird change for sure but it is definitely not a negative in and of itself, and in fact would constitute a buff for sure if tacked on to the kit he already had, though many seem to treat it like it would be a nerf if he had that passive on his old kit (in addition to the other passive)

Count Buffon2 votes

You can't just assume that he'll auto-win jungle because he's the bestest. Any jungler will lose some match-ups some of the time. And when it happens, Skarner will give free stuff to the other team, and it will result in a highly toxic team chat experience. I stand by my assessment.

Vellich0r1 votes

I didn't assume he will auto-win jungle. He is a very strong duelist, that much is fact, and he DOESNT GIVE FREE STUFF TO THE ENEMY TEAM. like seriously, tell me what free stuff he gives to the enemy team?

Twiggles3 votes

Enemy team receives gold for capping his rocks. Two of the rocks are in neutral territory, and two of them are in the enemy jungle already. Enemy jungler receives free gold from Skarner's rocks.

Vellich0r1 votes

I believe the game starts with the rocks being only able to be capped by skarner, and skarner is by far not the first champion who has something that can give gold to the opponent. All the other team does by capping one is giving one champ 15 gold at great personal risk in some cases. Literally, warding gives the other team more gold than skarner having rocks would. A ward is worth 30 gold and you can bout guarantee no one ever yells at someone because their ward got taken by the enemy support/jungler. that is in no way a big toxicity creating anything, you are literally just picking at something for no reason. Yeah its kinda gimmicky, yes it isn't the most reliable source of good stats, but you are giving another scuttle crab to the map that can only really benefit YOUR team and if you are getting them in your opponents jungle I am pretty sure they are providing more of an advantage to your team than to the opponent b because generally that means you just took their red/blue buff with your 125% attack speed steroid. I mean, when has the last time you complained about rek'sai leaving tunnels on the map? I can almost guarantee you that would provide more gold than skarners "rocks"

Matezoide14 votes

''Yes, we decided to make Mordekaiser into the weakest early game champion and completely deleted his ability to go into a Solo Lane. Now go play Lee $in!''

Chespin201313 votes

Can't wait to see all those dislikes and comments calling riot out on their bullshit on youtube.

RedCyclone11 votes

"Ohmwrecker was dominating the item pool, it was the go to item for any champion in the game, so we toned down it's passive and made it more expensive"

Koldheartedjsp10 votes

"we suck at our job and this is us reminding you. have fun."

Pikmints3 votes

~ Sincerely, not the lore team

Voidgolem8 votes

5.16 : "We implemented Titanic Hydra so we had to nerf the shit out of a lot of our bruisers. Since we felt it was good timing we also nerfed the shit out of morde and garen".

5.17 : "We had to nerf Titanic Hydra to uselessness because people were playing Tank Rengar again. We didn't actually buff the other guys".

MetalGearTeemu9 votes

"we needed to have garen CC himself when he hits with judgement because he's already too mobile. "

"we feel rengar 100-0'ing the adc mid-jump from ult stealth has sufficient counterplay. "

Vellich0r1 votes

he already cced himself when he hit with judgement, now he just CC's himself in less situations.

MetalGearTeemu4 votes

-used to CC himself hitting creeps with judgement, meaning you had to engineer trades after forcing the guy back off the creep line if you wanted to spin.

-now CC's himself whenever he hits any hero.

Less situations you say? Are you alright sir? Have you had a stroke?

Learnding8 votes

"Here at Riot we love to have Reddit dickride us till the cows come home". "As for our main forum that we ruined and never plan to fix, Fuck you".

ParaBellam6 votes

"We thought that Garen was too oppressive on mages and fighters that had to cast spells, so we nerfed his silence so they would have a chance to fight back. Also, we thought he was being a "juggernaut" way too well by our definition so we butchered his health and reduced his ability to stack resistances. Garen wasn't dealing enough damage with his ridiculous ult that scales off of the enemy's missing health, so he also deals 1% every Judgement tick to a single random target on the other team (that will nearly always be someone that doesn't actually HAVE that much health ex. ADC, APC). All in all, we hope this solidifies Garen's role as a trash heap."

BattleBalladeer4 votes

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".... All in all, we hope this solidifies Garen's role as a trash heap."

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/10509464.jpg

Edit: Original comment wasn't really a contribution to thread, so:

I kinda like Garen's ult's new passive. It definitely fits his theme and would have been great as a flat addition to his kit as is because it doesn't really have as big a contribution against characters that don't stack hp (but hey with the new Titanic Hydra tank rengar maybe) like most the carries who will inevitably be villains. It also encourages the situation to be taken more into account than simply using it whenever someone is low.

But everything else they are doing with him doesn't make sense. The removal of Tenacity on his W is the most counter-intuitive change to someone you want to label as a Juggernaut you could possibly make. Actually no, maybe its making his E slow him down when he is charging towards an enemy... Wait this guy is a juggernaut? Really?

This movement toward enemies/allies passive bit to new abilities seems like they just want to drizzle some sauce they just found out is good all over everything.

Garen will NEED item 3071 (which was really amazing on him after its rework) or item 3800 to provide the mobility Garen once had.

Lowvyr5 votes

Zirene is going to go off on them. I can feel it. He's seemingly the most community styled one out of all of them, because his job is to play and commentate the game, not design it. He knows how it actually feels compared to just how it should feel.

MrWasjig5 votes

And as is the case with every Patch Rundown, Zirene will make a legitimate argument/counterpoint to something or raise a very relevant concern...then get either totally ignored or shut down in that totally vague manner Riot loves to use by Scarizard and whoever else is on there.

Someone made a good comment once that watching the rundowns is like watching a League of Legends player talk with two LCS Ticket Sellers. Or something to that effect.

windwolf7771 votes

{quoted}

And as is the case with every Patch Rundown, Zirene will make a legitimate argument/counterpoint to something or raise a very relevant concern...then get either totally ignored or shut down in that totally vague manner Riot loves to use by Scarizard and whoever else is on there.

Someone made a good comment once that watching the rundowns is like watching a League of Legends player talk with two LCS Ticket Sellers. Or something to that effect.

Just wanted to leave a reply here to return to to see if you were right.

MrWasjig3 votes

Go and watch any of the previous rundowns and you'll likely see what I mean.

windwolf7772 votes

Yeah, I wasn't sure who he was at first. Once I looked it up though I understood instantly. Poor guy.

manbearswine5 votes

"So we haven't seen too much of zed lately,5.16 is aimed at fixing that"

BattleBalladeer4 votes

Riot Devs: "Well these changes sure did enhance the fantasies we originally made of these great 'Juggernauts', huh? I mean look at how much of an unstoppable force Morde is now with that Dragon!"

[Actual League Player]: "Well I do not really think it makes much sense really for any of the characters. Garen's new spin... Darius' rage and self heal... Morde's W makes him no longer a solo laner. Look at the-"

Devs: "Nonononononono. You are supposed to smile. No don't look at the camera. Look at us and smile. Nod your head. Good. These changes are great and you will accept your new game philosophy overlords."

About 2 months ago one of my best friends in League got me King of Clubs Mordekaiser . I never really played Morde much, but I decided to try it out with my Nunu top specs. He was a lot of fun- a bit of a lane bully- but not the total cheese of certain other characters. Now he is gutted hard by the forced Duo Lane.

I main fighters or tanks like Nunu , Trundle , Olaf , Maokai and with the new changes to items like item 3110 and item 3105 , everyone I play is taking a huge hit.

item 3075 has the interesting potential now that it could do more harm to characters like Swain Viktor or Ezreal , but its nerf to the % of enemy AD ruins what it was made to do, which is punish ADCs for focusing tanks. And that more harm to AA AP characters isnt even large enough to constitute nerfing the AD part at all AND the nerfs to EVERY OTHER ARMOR IN THE GAME make it worse to even play a tank using thornmail.

I am going to play the hell out of Mordekaiser until 5.16. Then I have no idea what I'll do for the rest of the season, or even next season. I hear HotS is adding Rexxar and a another Diablo map. Maybe Ill go back there now for a season or two.

bizzle891 votes

R. I. P. Skarner 2011-2015. Btw.: Can I get the RP back I spent on his skins?

BattleBalladeer4 votes

No, but you can have this Rock.

People kept saying how much skarner sucked before, but I just played a game with one that practically carried me in top and my teammates in fights with his decent damage and tankiness. I thought he was actually in a good spot.

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