Like i just saw her build 
She didn't finish the build, but she was tanky and her shield made her super hard to kill. She had high built in damage. And her cc was oppressive as hell. Can we please nerf her already. She has needed them forever and keeps being ignored.
Maximum Morde4 votesWin Rate 49.89% 17 / 29 - Sup
Win Rate 50.01% 29 / 48 - Mid
Playrates are pretty reasonable, 10% on sup, and 2% on mid. Winrate curve for games played sub 55% for experienced players. Has an interesting game length falloff curve.
I'm not seeing why she needs nerfs, unless you are just saying you never want her to see play again. Personally I wouldn't mind her getting a new rework on her ult so that they all feel good to use like Heimerdingers Ults do, but power wise she's fine right now.
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WElikkaL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-29T14:11:22.564+0000)
Win Rate 49.89% 17 / 29 - Sup
Win Rate 50.01% 29 / 48 - Mid
Playrates are pretty reasonable, 10% on sup, and 2% on mid. Winrate curve for games played sub 55% for experienced players. Has an interesting game length falloff curve.
I'm not seeing why she needs nerfs.
I really don't care about those useless af statistics. If a mid lane/supp mage can build tanky and remain viable and even stronger top lane, that is broken. She isn't a tank. She isn't a top laner.
Maximum Morde5 votesJust about every champion can build tanky and go top.
ySkym2 votesActually, the win rate explains everything. Tanky Karma is weak in late game, and she is not really good at teamfight.
hunterspec1 votes[{quoted}](name=iiiY retsaM,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WElikkaL,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-11-29T14:17:04.993+0000)
Actually, the win rate explains everything. Tanky Karma is weak in late game, and she is not really good at teamfight.
you sure? I saw her basically 1v1 a darius late game with full tank.... well darius was half hp she was full but regardless she was getting 1000+ hp back each heal
Maximum Morde3 votesI don't see the issue? He's a juggernaut vulnerable to kiting which is exactly what Karma does. I'd be more concerned if he wasn't losing to his weakness. Most tanky champions will lose in a 1v1. That isn't thier role. Their role is to cause enough distraction for the rest of their team to do the job.
She's fantastic for picks and counter engaging/disengage, but not such a great primary engage herself. Which is different from true tanks like Malphite, Amumu, Maoki, etc.
Sona Ping1 votes[{quoted}](name=iiiY retsaM,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WElikkaL,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-11-29T14:17:04.993+0000)
Actually, the win rate explains everything. Tanky Karma is weak in late game, and she is not really good at teamfight.
Actually, actually, they explain nothing because those stats are for Mid and Sup where nobody is doing that gimmick tank build and Karma falls off over the course of the game normally. If we look at some place where people do build this stuff we get:
Top lane (NA) 42nd in pickrate and 48th in win-rate
Sona Ping3 votesCan we please not nerf champions over gimmick builds? Especially not over single games where no one knows the circumstances or what happened in the game?
ForgivenSoul2 votesive seen the tank karma build a few times. its like 
. its funny as hell when she keeps popping Mantra W (which has a base healing of like 20% on cast then again on the actual snare) but its damage is pretty low but you cant really kill her. you just see her and someone else fighting for like 30 seconds and i can't help but laugh the whole time
Catastrop1 votesI had on my team in Ascension who got the buff. Longest I've ever seen someone stay ascended.
ForgivenSoul1 votesThat actually sounds scary. But atleast its not ascended tf who just ults back to the fountain
Wild Wes1 votesAny good top laner can 1v1 a Karma.
legionnaire991 votesLol you haven't seen her top I will name some top laners in lane in better vs 
Karbuncle1 votesWhen did this game happen,I don't see it in your history.
Catastrop1 votesYeah lets nerf a champion because of one gimmick build that barely like, 10 people use. Also 
exist.