"We're removing Devourer because it's too toxic to the game to balance"

chipndip1·May 3, 2016·3 votes·629 views

"No worries, we're moving Phantom Hit to Guinsoo's!" :D

Like I don't know what Riot's on with this Phantom Hit thing but I really wish they got over it sooner or later. Like ...phantom hit is just not a good idea. Not sure exactly why Riot insists on keeping it in the game, but now it's not even relegated to junglers anymore. ANYONE could just grab this shit, stack up some hits, and and run with it for a mile. I can see it being pretty problematic when it drops.

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ModWulf HelhammerMay 3, 20162 votes

Vayne, Caitlyn, Jinx, And Kindred won't be building the new Rageblade. And if their smart, neither will Lucian and Tryndamere. Everyone else is people that already bought it and the stats work well with them.

chipndip1May 3, 20161 votes

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Vayne, Caitlyn, Jinx, And Kindred won't be building the new Rageblade. And if their smart, neither will Lucian and Tryndamere. Everyone else is people that already bought it and the stats work well with them.

I'm not saying they're going to definitively use the item, but I am saying that if this item has the effect on the game I think it's gonna have, we could see it.

Phantom Hit is a VERY strong effect. Runaan's and Ruined King both have on-hits that can be doubled by Phantom Hit, and the thing increases your attack speed as you go. Anyone using AAs to fight is going to have a field day with this item. ESPECIALLY Vayne. You realize that this is a direct multiplier to the effectiveness of her passive...which is what she's primarily been balanced around now, right? Jinx, Cait, and Lucian were a stretch for the sake of what was a slight joke, but Vayne is someone that'll probably abuse this item. Kindred too since every other hit will double their current health on-hit passive from their passive, which was the main draw of using Devourer on them in the first place...which will NOW come with max health bonus damage...which can be doubled every auto...and then there's Ruined King...

Like what ganja must one smoke to NOT build Devourer + Guinsoo's + Ruined King on Kindred? They would literally serve your tanks on a platter with all that bonus damage.

ModWulf HelhammerMay 3, 20163 votes

The fact that it now costs 3600 gold, and has a horrible build path, as well as a heap of wasted stats for Vayne and Kindred beg to differ. Kindred wasn't even the strongest Devourer user (really it was just a way to get your passive more, Warrior was better in pretty much every other aspect). Vayne isn't going to gimp her early game even more by building an item that offers minimal combat stats for her when other items do just as well without the disadvantage of spending 860 gold for a useless component.

chipndip1May 3, 20161 votes

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The fact that it now costs 3600 gold, and has a horrible build path, as well as a heap of wasted stats for Vayne and Kindred beg to differ. Kindred wasn't even the strongest Devourer user (really it was just a way to get your passive more, Warrior was better in pretty much every other aspect). Vayne isn't going to gimp her early game even more by building an item that offers minimal combat stats for her when other items do just as well without the disadvantage of spending 860 gold for a useless component.

It's not like Yi really cares for the ap either.

Also, it's not unheard of for marksmen to build both ER and IE, so it's not like they can't go IE + Guinsoo's. Guinsoo, in scale, is basically an IE sort of buy. In a game where Vayne's way behind? Not seeing it happen too much. In a game where she's doing alright? I imagine she's going for it. I'll even give you Kindred not going for it too much (I'd be foolish to say it wouldn't happen...people are gonna fuck around with it at some point), but Vayne? I can definitely...DEFINITELY see Vayne going for this thing.

BemaponMay 3, 20161 votes

Dude dont hate on my new Vayne build. item 3124 item 3115 item 3100 item 3091

CalabokMay 3, 20162 votes

Chicken little said "The sky is falling!"

then, we made him into Adobo.

YUM!

My Sea CowMay 3, 20161 votes

so just build it yourself on champions you play and now everyone has the same advantage. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

chipndip1May 3, 20161 votes

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so just build it yourself on champions you play and now everyone has the same advantage. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

It's similar to how people were complaining that all AS junglers were forced into buying Devourer to the point where their place in the game was defined by their synergy with the item and the Phantom Hit effect. Now, instead of removing Phantom Hit so we don't shoe-horn champs into corners like that, we're making it so that EVEN MORE CHAMPS can be dictated by it?

Like, I can just FEEL the cancer coming from someone that could stack the six AAs as fast as someone that literally double taps his AAs after spells. I can just FEEL that nightmare crawling...someone's gonna do it.

GenghisEmoMay 3, 20161 votes

I used current Rageblade on Cait, Trist, and others because why not, especially before nerfs. It workee better on some.

But now, i think ill use it on anything ad XD just cause.

New IdentityMay 3, 20161 votes

meanwhile item 3025 item 3068 item 3065 are really fun to play agaisnt

chipndip1May 3, 20161 votes

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meanwhile are really fun to play agaisnt

Just cause we're gonna have a stupid decision hit live down the line doesn't mean these aren't stupid now. At least Visage and Sunfire are getting nerfed a bit.