Lucian can burst champion better than MANY AP champions

xJLx MCHammer··7 votes·676 views

Why has this been become okay? his early and mid game lets him burst enemy champions better than many AP champions. Even worse, he still scales better into late game then most of those said AP champions.

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k wìx1 votes

This is one of the reasons why Lucian is pick/ban in high level ranked play, currently.

Nerfs are already slotted though, they are hitting his #1 item, item 3153

undesirable team1 votes

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This is one of the reasons why Lucian is pick/ban in high level ranked play, currently.

Nerfs are already slotted though, they are hitting his #1 item, item 3153

by 3% lifesteal XD

Hethalean1 votes

That's huge when you consider his passive. HIs full rotation procs it 7 times. That's roughly 21% less.

Silly Neeko1 votes

The lifesteal is a small problem, which this will help....... But personally i feel that if a second hit would have reduced effects...... Such as Lucian's passive and hurricane...... Then its passive will be effected just as much.

Instead of flat 8% current hp damage every shot, doubled, that 8% should be reduced to like 4% for the second shot for example. This would help out a lot.

Hethalean1 votes

Well, I wasn't talking specifically about lifesteal. He mentioned lifesteal I guess, but 3% isn't right either. It's 2% less as of now which isn't awful. Evidently another CertainlyT champion is hadr to balance. who knew :P

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

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This is one of the reasons why Lucian is pick/ban in high level ranked play, currently.

Nerfs are already slotted though, they are hitting his #1 item, item 3153

They are only nerfing the lifesteal...

3% lifesteal also doesn't just affect him, it also applies to all other champion. increasing his Q cost does not mean he not longer doesn't burst more than AP champions who are designed to burst through high cooldowns

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well if people would build him with item 3508 item 3078 it would nullify the mana cost on Q give him cdr and on hit proc for passive with sheen passive and he would have more movement speed, mana, cdr, attack speed and hp

Hethalean1 votes

Well they've gone through 3 iterations now of nerfs. I would wait to see what final form it takes.

k wìx1 votes

Yep, I don't think he'll drop out of the meta by any stretch, but i'll take what I can get.

Hethalean1 votes

Good thing if you knew how to check the PBE, they're nerfing him and the best item for him (botrk)

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

OMG a champ is popular and people do well with him how will i ever beat him booo hooo

it seems if any champ does well at all Lucian 51.47% win rate the entire community loses their shit... the min he is nerfed and he drops below 50.01% win rate every loses their shit and says he is too weak

what is acceptable plz someone tell me ...

oh BTW as you all cry over how the black man is keeping you down... the RAT MAN Twitch has had a win rate over 54% for at least 5 patches

Blåbæret1 votes

Lucian is overtuned, but I agree that Twitch needs nerfs. He has flown under the radar for some unexplainable reason.

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

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OMG a champ is popular and people do well with him how will i ever beat him booo hooo

it seems if any champ does well at all Lucian 51.47% win rate the entire community loses their shit... the min he is nerfed and he drops below 50.01% win rate every loses their shit and says he is too weak

what is acceptable plz someone tell me ...

oh BTW as you all cry over how the black man is keeping you down... the RAT MAN Twitch has had a win rate over 54% for at least 5 patches

It's not that he has a 51+ winrate

I play, Anivia has 55% everywhere but Silver and Bronze but I don't complain about her. My complaint is that Lucian can do more burst despite being a sustain damage dealer. He can also out scale the champion he out bursts..

Like if you are a champion like Heimerdinger Kayle Kennen Malzahar Lux Taliyah Velkoz Ziggs

like lucian can actually out burst most of these champions early and mid game. By design, AP champions should be doing more damage and burst especially if they have high cooldown. ADC's should be doing more sustain damage. Lucian is able to do both better than most of the AP mid laners.

Granted, i'm not saying he needs a nerf. Just needs to be adjusted

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

ok so no matter what champ it may be #1 at what ever role someone somewhere will cry foul . they will say that champ is too strong blah blah blah . there are a few facts about league people need to realize and accept:

#1 there will always be a champ #1 #2 there will always be a community that bitches and whines over said champ #3 rito will fuk any abilities to balance the game cuz there too many variables to have a perfectly balanced game

if we want "balance " and "fairness" and "counter play" then rito needs to do away with some of the variables therefore making the balance equation easier... for starters get rid of runes and masteries all together and balance the game around champs stats (base and per lvl ) and items.

AcidTheWarlock1 votes

Mid lane Lucian is the future.

So is mid lane Jhin. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

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