who beats kha zix early game?

MunchCrunchLunch··3 votes·3,882 views

don't tell me to depend on my team. i dont want to fucking give kha zix my jungle every game. i mean what do i do against him on my fucking own. i want to get my blue buff. red buff. why the hell do i die every time i play against him and i can't go in my jungle or do any damn thing. why does this champion dictate the WAY I PLAY. who the hell beats him in isolation.

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Eedat3 votes

LeeSin Nidalee if you land your Q. If you miss you're dead though. Still kind of situational though. If you get caught at half HP doing a camp it doesn't matter what champ you're using.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

I generally just ward my jungle. Tracker's Knife, Warding Totem and Pink Wards are great for this.

If you want champions why can just beat him in a 1v1 fight, I would recommend trying: Volibear Olaf Trundle DrMundo Shyvana XinZhao Graves

Alternatively, just play a durable champion with decent mobility and dash away from him when he tries to kill you if you aren't strong enough to fight him.. Zac Sejuani Gragas Nunu Vi Udyr

why does this champion dictate the WAY I PLAY.

Any well-played jungler is going to dictate how you play.

That is how the jungle role works.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

so these can beat him early game in a 1v1? its not the jungler its the champion. no other champion does this. am not scared of shaco to instagib me because i can counterpick him. and outduel him. so does every other jungler have a direct counter that outduels them. thats just how counter match ups work.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

soraka since she has one of the strongest level 1's in the game

MunchCrunchLunch4 votes

what is this?

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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what is this?

Idk lol.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

Rammus Gragas Olaf Pantheon Udyr VolibearHecarim Rengar

you have options

maybe MonkeyKing RekSai Shaco JarvanIV ZacShyvana Vi pending skill and who invades who

Eedat2 votes

Wukong main reporting in. Strongly recommend against picking Wu Jung into Kha Jung. He absolutely destroys you early

Very Hard Engage1 votes

i could invade him after red at level 2 with E and W, assuming he misses his Q hes baked(on the clone), its extremely toxic when both are as low as they are, but if he invades you same thing, hes going to be ahead on health and hes initiating first

Eedat1 votes

Wukong has one of the early worst clears period in the jungle. You don't invade with him lol. You are practically dead after the first camp and first buff

Very Hard Engage1 votes

then you have a poor rune/mastery setup or you tried clearing too many camps.

im talking early invade

start with hunters tali

golems + red = level 2 and change, smite both of them, finish with 2/3rds your health + a potion to use.

AD reds, armor yellows, CDR blues (flat 5%, and 5% at level 18) quints 1 armor, 1 ad, 1 ms. i recommend ms over armor and ad if you have to choose.

wukong has mastery options, moreso than others. i prefer 0/18/12, take 45% cdr, and buff extension(or assassin) right side is again, your preferences, but nothing besides 2dmg reduction is going to help much, but i take the bonus 5% armor/mr because i dont build full ad.

your other option is 12/0/18, taking strength of ages, which is also good.

get a solid leash at golems, clear red and smite it and invade him. its soooo easy, i have no idea why you finish so low, maybe you aren't canceling jungle auto attacks and getting 2 autos blocked when you use W. auto -> E -> auto -> monster raises arm, W make sure clone is closer to minion, he ends up canceling 2 autos). also kill the lil ones first. finish and find khazix at wolves or raptors and hes donzo.

XinCrin1 votes

Kha'zix actually gets really low in his first clear so you can take advantage of that. Play maybe an aggressive early game champion and try to catch the kha when he is low.

BladeSteel1 votes

Ward your buffs, and take your other camps first. Its the same with every enemy jg that might invade you. Just ward your buffs, go do wolves or raptors or whatever, then if they try to take your buffs you can kill them. With 90% of the invade jg's they win b/c they catch you out. IF you catch them out you can win. I do this if I think that they will invade me. ward your buffs, and do other camps. If they go to your buff and you aren't there 70% of the time they'll leave, and the other 30% they'll do it, leaving them weaker, and you can kill them.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

there is a difference. nobody has a 3 second kill at level 1 that does over 200 damage. but kha zix

who catches them. LOOK AT MY QUESTION. i don't need and i dont want to need my teams help for me to JUST FARM my god damn jungle. they won't come to help. they just don't people don't fucking help you in low elo.

BladeSteel1 votes

I DIDN'T SAY YOUR TEAM NEEDS TO HELP YOU. Holy crap. YOU catch them out. The reason they kill you is you're doing a camp, and kha comes and kills you. You ward your buffs and do other camps. IF they do your buff, YOU PERSONALLY go and catch them out and kill them. Its that easy.

DarkRitual1 votes

Someone who can invade and skirmish. Or Nunu. Eat everything.

BakedLotion1 votes

I've never seen a khazix that isn't fed lmfao. Even if his team is losing, he has kills.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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I've never seen a khazix that isn't fed lmfao. Even if his team is losing, he has kills.

because he's an assassin, he's made to kill someone, but not carry games.

BakedLotion1 votes

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because he's an assassin, he's made to kill someone, but not carry games.

yeah? and so are alot of other champions. But you don't see them getting fed when they're losing hard.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

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yeah? and so are alot of other champions. But you don't see them getting fed when they're losing hard.

Ahri Zed Annie Leblanc Lux Karthus Pantheon Veigar Rengar LeeSin

BakedLotion1 votes

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Ahri Zed Annie Leblanc Lux Karthus Pantheon Veigar Rengar LeeSin

TIL Lux ,karthus, annie and veigar are assassins

paisy1 votes

People says he's fair but I think he's too easy for how much damage he does.

Vekkna1 votes

Another champ with the damage of an ult on a basic ability. Like Nid or Lee.

Talisid1 votes

Teamwork and good ward placement. Kha's isolated target damage is way too high for anybody to reasonably be expected to duel him. The only way to fight him is to not give him the isolated bonus.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

ofcourse. what else could it be.

AdeBug1 votes

play it safe til late game, he's weak af unless fed counter stealing works if you know where he's at

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

so stay out of my jungle and not farm until late game. good plan.

AdeBug1 votes

not what I said :> if you don't want help, don't ask for it

TequilaZombie1 votes

Stay out of your jungle, go to his. Cjungle that bug into oblivion. Farm his shit.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

like. I don't complain about rengar or shaco because they can be outdueled. many champions outduel them. nobody outduels kha zix in isolation to my knowledge

TequilaZombie1 votes

Olaf at lvs 1, 2 and 3 (and probably through the entire game) LeeSin at lv 2 Nidalee after lv 3 if played correctly Shaco if he plans it out first Volibear if his passive is up

I'm pretty sure there are plenty more, but those are the ones I could come up with without having to actually think about it too much.

N Pelosi1 votes

Probably Elise, assuming her spiderlings count against isolated. Ima be honest and say I never played this matchup though so they might not.

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