You know what the most broken thing about Marksmen is?

FCJAAAAGOOOO··4 votes·362 views

Their base AD per level.

Their autoattacks gain a ton of damage as the game goes on for free. Like, besides their items or abilities. It helps make their builds ridiculously strong at as early as two items in, as we all already know with Vayne item 3031 item 3087 just as one humble example. People say crit items are broken but what about the fact that you have to be the likes of Tryndamere or Yasuo to use them effectively if you're not a marksman?

They're all carrying games later on regardless with 6 offense items and 600+ range autos; what's the need for all their additional built-in damage? Don't tanks like Shen gain less HP per level specifically because they build so much of it anyway since their abilities scale with it? Why do marksmen not deserve the same treatment?

Even if all marksmen gained just 1 AD less per level, I - and possibly many more people - would be much more happy with this already damage-infested meta. They currently just show up to fights past 25 minutes and 2~3-shot everyone that doesn't have item 3047 and health or like 200+ armor; then they get a giant overheal shield from lifesteal before anyone even touches them. This is all before supports come into the picture, not after, with their own shields and damage amps. Does all that not seem completely imba to anyone else?

Marksmens' damage is absolutely ridiculous right now across the board. There's enough of that going on in the game already. Let's tone it down a bit.

9 Comments

ProfDrDeath2 votes

Nice joke.

Most marksmen have a 2.4 AD/lvl growth factor. That means 17 levels give them about 41 AD.

You know what else gives 40 AD? item 1038 .

Kaìju1 votes

I actually didn't know that was the average growth stat. Thanks for the tip.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

It is not average as in "mean", but that value is what most ADCs have:

Less than 2.4 AD/lvl: MissFortune Vayne Caitlyn Xayah Kindred Ashe 2.4 AD/lvl: Lucian KogMaw Graves Ezreal Sivir Quinn Twitch Varus Tristana More than 2.4 AD/lvl: Jinx Kalista Draven Corki

FCJAAAAGOOOO1 votes

You know who can do a lot with 40 AD?

FCJAAAAGOOOO1 votes

Also, marksmens' base AD at level 1 is among the highest in the game, tied with many melees. Kalista's the worst offender of this with a base AD of 71, almost 74 when you factor in AD per level. They don't need much more base AD than edit: what they already start with.

Infernape3 votes

I'd say Kalista's is completely understandable considering her autos don't deal 100% of her AD as damage.

ProfDrDeath3 votes
  1. Champions don't get the per level value at level 1 anymore - ever since preseason 5, in fact, when they changed stat gain to proceed in a nonlinear fashion.

  2. It is Kalista. With 71 AD, she still hits for only 63.9 at level 1, due to reduced AA damage.

FCJAAAAGOOOO1 votes

Okay fine haha.

But Ashe Lucian Tristana KogMaw Sivir have 65 AD at level 1 which puts them within the top 1/3rd of the chart, and many other marksmen have 64 AD at level 1. That's still a lot, regardless of their range.

Ahristocats2 votes

marksmen have the lowest ad/lvl in the game lmao

highests are juggernauts, then divers, then adcs

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