Notice how most people complaining about assassins abusing lethality

McFatal··9 votes·1,564 views

forget the fact that Miss fortune and other adcs like jhin are the ones who abuse it more than others.

people will always look to target hate assassins just because they would prefer adcs to have the best time in the world

mf pressing r and melting everyones health requires more mechancis and skill than a zed that has to land everything late game and hope its enough to break through the 50 shields and exhaust he has to go through - adc mains 2017

heck mf and jhin RUSH item 3142 into item 3814 into item 3147 if the enemy team is squishy but THEM GODDAMN ASSASSINS

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Big Lincoln6 votes

notice how most of them are mage and adc mains

McFatal4 votes

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notice how most of them are mage and adc mains

its expected.

just yesterday there was a thread about how mages have it really hard what with "not having seen any changes in that entire season"

made me want to puke when there were actually people upvoting his comment and agreeing with him/IT

mage update made so many mages already more strong than they were.

Big Lincoln5 votes

mages have been ridiculous since season 5, idk why they get away with Aoe burst on top of so much utility and range

WoonStruck1 votes

Uhh...season 5?

Try season 1.

They had a dip in play for a brief period where assassins were exclusively played mid, but that's about it.

Big Lincoln1 votes

season 1? try beta, dude

Zero Skill Tank5 votes

Assassins are inherently toxic, how is it surprising people complain about anything that makes them even a bit too strong?

Miss Fortune and Jhin might or might not be even stronger with lethality, but no matter how strong they are they will need protection from their team and will need to focus on teamfights and objectives. People complain less about them because they offer much healthier playstyle - it's that simple.

Pretending like only people who mind assassins are mage and adc mains is just childish. They hurt game experience for everyone of both teams. Much less so than in season 3 when your own team would flame you for picking an assassin, no matter how strong a champ they were, but they still don't match health levels of other classes.

Ahristocats4 votes

Jhin doesn't do broken shit with lethality, he pokes with W and kills low hp people with R from 3000 range if tanks don't block it and people don't dodge Lethality jhin does the same thing crit jhin does, except that he has damage from a long distance that has counterplay

Crit jhin has more damage on autoattacks

McFatal3 votes

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Jhin doesn't do broken shit with lethality, he pokes with W and kill low hp people with R from 3000 range if tanks don't block it and people don't dodge Lethality jhin does the same thing crit jhin does, except that he has damage from a long distance that has counterplay

Crit jhin has more damage on autoattacks

p sure lethality allows him to melt added in with crit just shitting on the enemy squishies.

Ahristocats1 votes

if he swears on RNG sure, else 80 or 100% crit jhin will do a better job at it +killing tanks+kiting with whisper bonus ms that scales with AS

bbQsauçe5 votes

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Ahristocats1 votes

he doesn't "assassinate" people from 3000 units, he kills them if they're under ~~60% hp

since 6.18 jhin can't kill a target that has 100% of its hp even with lethality

bbQsauçe5 votes

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Ahristocats1 votes

No he can't, his ulti at rank 3 (level 16) deals 140+0.2 AD ratop if you're full life

bbQsauçe4 votes

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Ahristocats1 votes

yes you just said it's not a oneshot

and it doesn't matter if it adds 50%, 50% of 160+0.2 AD is still low, without forgetting that it's hard to hit 4 times with jhin ulti and they can block some shots

ForgiveColour1 votes

I love how the same thing can be said for mages and it would be in aoe but its totally fair and balanced to you guys because theyre mages

WoonStruck1 votes

I agree, but Jhin still needs nerfs.

MissingKayo2 votes

"if it kills me 100-0, it's broken" "if i kill someone else 100-0, it's not broken"

McFatal2 votes

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"if it kills me 100-0, it's broken" "if i kill someone else 100-0, it's not broken"

if a brand presses r and kills everyone its ok because u cant do anything so its balanced.

if a riven flash combos my adc and perfectly dodges everything and survives our peel as well as exhaust shes a cancerous champion and needs to be gutted - league community 2017

Incarceration1 votes

Brand does require a lot more than that. He's basically your AOE assassin.

I agree though, adcs feel like they are entitled to everything.

Aptest2 votes

"I am supposed to 100-0 this guy instantly! it is my JOB! that is why the role is called attack-damage-CARRY/assassin"

The Great Divide2 votes

I don't get why you're not getting more attention - Miss Fortune literally is press r to win right now. She has very little counterplay, because by the time you cc her out of her ult, it's 1/2-one shot your entire team.

She's beyond bs, and they need to take a look at her kit as a whole, because she can't be a super lane bully, while also having stupid teamfight, all with zoning, and a w auto attack speed buff, so she doesn't even need to build attack speed items

God I hate that champion

Siyther1 votes

lethality , theres a concept that should exist in this game, to counter tanks and armor stackers. It should not be built to delete squishies. That is the funamental flaw with it. Assassins as well as adc's shread though ppl that arent building any armor and it effectivly turns them into an assassin. As soon as this patch came out with the leth buffs guess who i saw almost every mid game last night (just kidding only had one ut it was stupid as fuck)? If u guessed Zedd ur sir are an asshole lol. it was and i was Syndra ( a op character in her own right) Now i aused that fucker early game forced him outta lane everytimme he came to it. AT level 6 this dude with one unfinshed leth item literaly 00 to zero'ed me with one ulti dispite getting hard core shit on the whole time. That my friends is the bullshit that leth should not do. Now i dont really blame the Zedd for playing to the champs strenghths or anything but when one stat can literally change the entire outcome of a lane that is absurb(mind u he had not even finsihed ghostblade just the first part of it cause he had no gold lol) That is beyond broken and riot needs a better look at this shit. Now i main adc that being said its just as rediculus for an adc to turn into a assassin by doing the same thing. Adc however are a bit more gated early game so it takes them longer to effect the game unlike a ASSassin.Mf shouldnt be able to finish 2 leth items and ulti and kill an entire team either. Riot please fix this shit as if assassin meta isnt bad enough now everyone is an assassin and i for one hate it

WoonStruck1 votes

Actually, everyone's complaining about everyone abusing Lethality.

Dianna Leveret1 votes

In the past i hated Jhin with a passion, now MF takes my N1 spot. As someone said, there is 0 counterplay to her ult, UNLESS you have 2 assassins dedicated just to flank her and 1 shot her before/while she ults. No matter which champ i play and how i build him, past a certain point of the game, all she needs is to press R and win. By the time i can reach her to cc her or something, i am already almost dead or dead - and this all happens in a 1 sec timeframe. In 1 game i played as an off tank support, with 4k HP and 200-ish armor.. screw that her R melted me before i could even flash away. Sure there are ways to turn around a game with MF in it, by splitpush, almost 0 teamfights, good coordination , BUT considering this is not lcs, but soloQ, such things happen once in a blue moon. Every lethality abusing player is getting my report, for just abusing it. I know they will not get punished for it, not their fault they want freelo, but its a statement i make for how much i despise this meta and those MFs , Quinns, Assassins, and everyother bruiser who abuses it. I prefer to play vs a sated devourer Master Yi, than deal with this lethality meta crap, because master Yi is just 1 player, but now every team has at least 2 lethality players, who do 50% of your HP ( if squishy ) with pressing a button.

Escheton1 votes

Those are immobile ranged attackers though. The problem isn't the damage. It's the damage on a champ that just bails soon as the burst is over and one can retaliate. You can more easily play around adc's.

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