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The problem is Aphelios's passive.

Elite4Runner·12/30/2019, 7:38:00 PM·15 votes·8,697 views

Aphelios gets too many free stats from his passive. They cause him to scale too hard and too fast, and he doesn't need to sacrifice anything for them.

He doesn't have the highest Base AD or Attack speed, but in combination with his passive, there are few marksmen that surpass him without any modified basic attack mechanics or reduced damage.

By level 18 he is guaranteed +24 AD, +36% Attack Speed, AND +18% without any items, runes, or other buffs.

I think the "AND" is really the issue here.

Change his passive so they scale slightly lower and he can invest into each up to 9 times (yes, I know he only has 18 levels)

This means he has 3 options

  • Maximize 2 of the 3 stats and get 0 benefit of the 3rd
  • Maximize 1 of the 3 stats and get partial benefit of the other 2
  • Maximize 0 of the 3 but get partial benefit from all 3

Instead of Attack Damage 4 / 8 / 12 / 16 / 20 / 24 Attack Speed 6 / 12 / 18 / 24 / 30 / 36% Bonus Armor Penetration 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 / 15 / 18%

He gets Attack Damage 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 / 16 / 18 / 21 / 24 / 27 Attack Speed 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 / 35 / 40 / 45% Bonus Armor Penetration 2.5 / 5 / 7.5 / 10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20 / 22.5

25 Comments

Elite4Runner12/30/2019, 7:39:43 PM10 votes

Downvoted before anyone has even had time to read my post lol

ModAcademy Kayn12/30/2019, 11:20:18 PM6 votes

While I get where you're coming from with this, you're kinda missing out on a point of Aphelios. Those stats are there because he doesn't have abilities to level up, so his damage comes only from his AD and stats. He only has Ratios to work with, he doesn't gain more damage from his Q's or R with levels so instead of having leveling base damages, he gains stats.

The Swift Yordle12/31/2019, 12:44:36 AM2 votes

No Aphelios is fine. Play him learn his guns and rotations and R interactions then you will know how to lane vs him as a non-counter.

If you don't want to do this play a hard counter ... like Ashe, Varus, Caitlyn, Tristana, Draven.

He really isn't broken since his nerf.

People only think he is broken because they don't understand him, and try to engage without looking at his guns.

LET THIS BE KNOWN HE IS JUST A ADC SO WASTING 2 R or HARD CC HE IS ONE SHOTTED JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Someone that needs a nerf right now is Caitlyn she controls the bot lane right now.

Kadexe12/31/2019, 2:14:05 AM2 votes

I view the free stats as compensation for having no W or E abilities. And, it's a lot simpler than having a system for leveling up his 5 different abilities and 5 passives.

Really though there's nothing wrong with free stats, most ADCs have them in some way. Count how many abilities there are that give marksmen AD, AS, on-hit damage, etc.

Kazekiba12/30/2019, 7:39:28 PM2 votes

Twitch gets 36 True damage per second but 18% bonus armor pen is suddenly too strong for a passive.

K. Meanwhile Mordekaiser exists, Darius gets 230 AD from his passive and 25% total armor penetration on his E.

G0blinSlay3r12/30/2019, 11:46:30 PM2 votes

Apple OS has always been about bad hardware. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Durzaka12/31/2019, 6:07:15 AM1 votes

In a world were a passive like Mordes exists, I dont think that Aphelio's stats as a passive are a problem.

Greenlightx12/31/2019, 11:27:54 AM1 votes

he needs to be aggressively gutted, what you wrote is actually a buff

EATARI12/31/2019, 4:22:56 PM1 votes

Not a single champion in LOL gets “free stats”. Every single part of a champion is considered a part of their power budget. To claim that Aphelios gets free stats is like complaining that Mundo gets 40-200 “free” attack damage from his E. Or to take it one step further, Taric gets a “free” 55 attack damage from base stats.

You can argue that a champion’s stats are too great and overinflate their power budget, but there is no such thing as free stats.