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LuxannaVeritas··3 votes·903 views

I don't really know what topic to put this in because it doesn't really fit any of them...

Anyway, Riot has heard you already. Some people want Solo Q back. They know, and they're trying to get it back into the game.

...and you're still nagging them.

Socrates even posted an update saying that they're trying to bring Solo Q back. It doesn't say anywhere in his update that Solo Q is dead.

...and yet you're still saying that Solo Q will never come back.

Look, Riot has said that they're working on Solo Q, so the least you can do is show some respect and wait for some more info before you spread rumors about Solo Q. Dynamic Q isn't going to be the end of League of Legends; 36% including myself prefers dynamic queue over solo queue. So please stop spreading false information and stop blaming Riot for this!

You can post your complaints; this is the boards, after all. Nevertheless, please look for evidence from Riot if you want to claim something that might be false (like Riot is doing nothing, which is false).

Thanks for reading. Riot has given us a fun game, and don't let one thing you don't like about it ruin it for you. :)

34 Comments

Tufio3 votes

Don't be naive.

Solo q was ready from the very start of the season.

Is just that solo and dynamic can't coexist, riot aim is to make us "forget" about solo.

Thats why WE MUST post about it.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

Riot's aim is to make us "forget" about solo queue?

So... mentioning it in their update is supposed to make us forget about it?

And how do you know that solo queue was ready for the start of the season? Sure, they did say that it would be out a few weeks after dynamic but things happen; maybe there was a bug that occurred with dynamic queue AND solo queue in the game, and they're working on a fix?

I'm also not saying that you shouldn't post about it, as I said in my original post. I'm just saying that you should check your facts. The one thing I hate the most is people spreading false information with no evidence to back it up.

mogonk1 votes

{quoted}

Riot's aim is to make us "forget" about solo queue?

So... mentioning it in their update is supposed to make us forget about it?

No, mentioning it in the update is supposed to split the group of people who want it into people who are disappointed and assume it won't happen and people who are still hopeful. Because it's more dangerous in PR terms if everybody hits the "disappointed" stage together, people's expressions of anger spike very early after they turn on you and then taper off. You want to gradually defuse expectations to keep the dissent at a manageable, even level.

I explain all of this here.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

My second question was ironic, but I understand your point.

I don't think that, if Riot did what you said, its wrong; having everyone hitting this "disappointed" stage might negatively affect the people who are staying out of the argument, and might even escalate the movement to unsurmountable levels.

Thank you for your answer; I think it helped me understand this situation better.

Slappybiscuit3 votes

Look out, this guy has protection from black AND first strike!

A Basic Island1 votes

???

what card are you referencing :S?

TNHA Baritone2 votes

The community loves bliss.

Ignorance is bliss.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

I couldn't agree more. :)

Slythion1 votes

{quoted}

I couldn't agree more. :)

He's referring to you. Riot has stated/hinted several times that Solo Q is probably not going to happen but only in vague ways. They aren't giving an out-right public "no" because they know a lot of the community would leave league (because a large portion of league wants a solo que)

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

OF COURSE they aren't giving an out-right public "no" because solo Q is NOT DEAD!

How do you know that Riot is saying that solo Q isn't going to happen? You said it yourself; what they're saying is VAGUE, which means that you can't assume what they're exactly saying!

See, what you brought up is what I hate in life the most. You're interpreting. You think you know what Riot is saying, but you have no evidence to back it up. Interpretations are not always RIGHT, and spreading wrong interpretations means spreading wrong information.

Plus no matter what evidence you show me proving that solo Q is cancelled, I'm just going to show you this quote from Socrates's update.

"We'll be honest: there's definitely a world in which solo queue doesn't return, but we'd rather keep it on the table as we work through these issues before making a final decision."

If you don't know what on the table means, look it up, but this sentence basically says that there's a probability that solo queue will return.

Slythion2 votes

Solo Q isn't going to happen because it isn't beneficial to Riot compared to not having it. When they say it probably won't happen, it's because they are beating around the bush and can't say that it definitely won't happen. There hasn't been any comments about Solo Q's production or whether they are planning on incorporate it, but there has been plenty of comments about how they probably won't incorporate it. This is a company we are talking about, and they won't reveal information that they won't implement something until the following/support for it has died down or lost it's momentum

This is a simple business practice and they are playing us.

Think about it this way: If they thought there was a possibility that Solo Q could happen then they would be leaving positive comments, trying to keep the support for it going while they make Solo Q to maximize the momentum behind people wanting it = better results. If they aren't planning on incorporating it then they will only give vague, negative responses to the idea of Solo Q, as saying there won't be one will lose players who are invested in Solo Q and giving positive responses will encourage the movement and disappoint more/lose more players when they eventually have to declare Solo Q dead.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

Hmm... OK I agree with your answer to my question, even if the reverse is true (probably is a key word in your argument). However that does put Riot in a peculiar predicament...

The general consensus I've been seeing from across the boards is that people won't stop fighting for solo Q until it comes out. However, what you said is true; if Riot does NOT want to release solo Q, they won't say so unless the support for solo Q dies down.

It's kind of like a game of chicken; someone is going to have to give sooner or later.

I actually think this is the most probable scenario... but I'm not going to be surprised if solo Q does come back. TBH I'm pretty indifferent in this argument. I prefer dynamic Q but I want solo Q back since that would make a lot of people happy.

Thank you for your answer! And sorry if my previous comment was a bit harsh; as I said, I don't like rumors.

Slythion2 votes

Not a problem at all ^-^

Something you should also know is that Solo Q's momentum will die down after awhile, as do most other pushes of this kind. Riot is playing the waiting game which is both the best move for them and a douche move to the players. It's not fair or right to keep loyal players sitting on the edge of their seats while they give out vague answers that they know the true answer for.

It most likely won't come back because: a) The momentum will die down eventually, and only a minimum amount of players will leave because of it b) Because only a minimum amount of players will really leave, financially it doesn't make sense to keep both Solo and Dynamic que. Dynamic Q already got rid of Team Builder (rip: i miss you TB ;n;) because it was financially inefficient to have both servers running and splitting the league community

It's unfortunate that Riot is acting like a business instead of a provider, but it makes financial sense. As much as it sucks for us, they are doing the right thing no matter how upset I can be about it :/

Spanked eGirl2 votes

But there is QQ and Rage to be had!

GigglesO1 votes

Where is magma chamber?

Fusarix1 votes

{quoted}

Where is magma chamber?

Riot said it got cancelled a LONG time ago...

Cursed Aegis1 votes

{quoted}

Thanks for reading. Riot has given us a fun game, and don't let one thing you don't like about it ruin it for you. :)

That one thing would be NOT having to play against OR with pre-mades. "Fair" went right out the window with broken matchmaking. It ruins the game. You just said the equivalent of "Don't let that dog turd in your sundae ruin the taste." Yeah, right, white knight.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

If I understand your argument correctly... you're saying that you shouldn't be able to play against or with pre-mades if you're playing solo?

If that's what you're saying, I don't think that's reasonable. I mean, if someone makes a three-person pre-made, then two people HAVE to play with it. You can't just get rid of two, three, or four person pre-mades; that's super restricting.

Cursed Aegis1 votes

{quoted}

If I understand your argument correctly... you're saying that you shouldn't be able to play against or with pre-mades if you're playing solo?

If that's what you're saying, I don't think that's reasonable. I mean, if someone makes a three-person pre-made, then two people HAVE to play with it. You can't just get rid of two, three, or four person pre-mades; that's super restricting.

I'm sorry, I should've been clearer. I have a problem with there ONLY being dynamic queue. If we have both, everyone would be happy.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

Oh! OK yeah I feel the same way! :)

Critmaster Garen1 votes

riot already stated they canceled solo que. not officially here on the forums, but some rioter mentioned it in some low profile interview. it seems like their plan was to not say anything directly and sweep it under the rug in the hopes people forget about it while they get used to dynamic que.

also lytes comment about how he did a survey with some really weird sounding highly suggestive question, with the outcome that apparantly more than 50% of the people liked dynamic que over solo que.

the actual question they presented wasnt a question. it was something along the lines of

"i like that i can que up with my friends in ranked games"

so yea. there are concerns to be had.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

I don't think they meant for us to forget about solo queue; I mean, Socrates mentioned it a lot in his update he made a few days ago. So I guess that information doesn't add up, because I believe that the interview is real...

Also, did you see the straw poll someone made on these boards, asking if people preferred dynamic queue over solo queue? It wasn't Lyte's, since it was more direct with its question. Over 90,000 people voted on it, and 64% of people preferred solo Q. I mentioned this poll to Socrates in his update, so I think Riot did see the poll.

In regards to your other comment, I agree; I would like to see solo queue with dynamic queue in the game so that everyone is happy. Having one won't kill the other; there are still plenty of people who would play either one.

So in short, I still believe that solo queue is still alive. Riot wouldn't totally get rid of something that over half the players want; that's just ridiculous. Having both is totally possible, and Riot is trying, as stated in Socrates's update, to get it on the table. In regards to "it was promised weeks after dynamic queue," there's still a possibility that there was a bug that occurred when they tried to put solo queue and dynamic queue in the game together. Maybe that's why it's taking so long.

Thank you for a nice comment; your words came across as kind and really concerned about this topic. I also agree with most of the things you said. :)

Critmaster Garen1 votes

really, i dodnt mind dynamic que as long as it is an option along true solo que. but it looks like they want to completely replace it.

Dehitay1 votes

Riot has no intention of adding back solo-queue and a lot of players are smart enough to realize it. The only way to get it into the game at this point is to make a huge ordeal out of it. Which is why you see people making a huge ordeal out of it. It's the only hope we have left.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

You seem to have misunderstood me.

I never said in my post that I oppose people making a huge ordeal about it. I do believe that solo queue should come back, even though I like dynamic queue better. The reason I want it back is because I think it would make a lot of people happy. I also think that bringing it up constantly is fine (it might put a HECK lot of pressure on Riot though...).

I'm just tired of people interpreting things rioters say, and spreading what they think Riot is saying without any evidence. The interpretations of many players can be biased and inaccurate.

Please understand that my message isn't to all who oppose dynamic queue. There's only a select few that are spreading the rumors, but everyone else I support. So keep on rallying on!

Zone of Endless1 votes

{quoted}

I don't really know what topic to put this in because it doesn't really fit any of them...

Anyway, Riot has heard you already. Some people want Solo Q back. They know, and they're trying to get it back into the game.

...and you're still nagging them.

Socrates even posted an update saying that they're trying to bring Solo Q back. It doesn't say anywhere in his update that Solo Q is dead.

...and yet you're still saying that Solo Q will never come back.

Look, Riot has said that they're working on Solo Q, so the least you can do is show some respect and wait for some more info before you spread rumors about Solo Q. Dynamic Q isn't going to be the end of League of Legends; 36% including myself prefers dynamic queue over solo queue. So please stop spreading false information and stop blaming Riot for this!

You can post your complaints; this is the boards, after all. Nevertheless, please look for evidence from Riot if you want to claim something that might be false (like Riot is doing nothing, which is false).

Thanks for reading. Riot has given us a fun game, and don't let one thing you don't like about it ruin it for you. :)

It's funny because Lyte promised true soloq would come out a few weeks after dynamic Q released/season 6 started.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

How do you know that solo queue was ready for the start of the season? Sure, they did say that it would be out a few weeks after dynamic but things happen; maybe there was a bug that occurred with dynamic queue AND solo queue in the game, and they're working on a fix?

Don't worry, a lot of people have the same concern as you. I'm questioning your comments because I want to know more about what the other side thinks. :)

Dehitay1 votes

{quoted}

How do you know that solo queue was ready for the start of the season? Sure, they did say that it would be out a few weeks after dynamic but things happen; maybe there was a bug that occurred with dynamic queue AND solo queue in the game, and they're working on a fix?

I'm not sure how much of a programming background you have, but with team dynamic queue up and running, making solo dynamic queue is an incredibly simple process. It's nothing more than a duplicate of team dynamic queue with the party button removed and solo only available. The hardest thing would be double checking that everything goes to the correct database, and with as many employees as Riot has, that's not gonna take much time at all. There is no technical problem stopping them from implementing solo-queue. It's completely a business decision.

LuxannaVeritas1 votes

Oh, I don't have any programming talent so I'll take your word for this! Thanks for explaining!

I really like how much I'm learning about this whole issue; mostly everyone's comments have been extremely helpful! Thanks again!

RogueWill1 votes

they have been working on a taric rework for ages, he is just too slow

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Waiting for you to put out a quality rework.

Stars Shaper1 votes

I would be fine with Team Buider being back for Normals. No changes needed for that. Bu Riot isn't implementing it because thei are biased towards Dynamic Q.

Trídent1 votes

If you know enough about business, you will know that Riot has absolutely no intention of releasing solo queue.

Cursed Aegis1 votes

Detente has been achieved, then, friend.

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