Everyone is complaining about Yasuo?

Bultz··3 votes·594 views

All I hear is "Yasuo is toxic, Yasuo is op". Everyone talking about a champion most haven't ever even tried out, much less learned to counter. They talk about how every time a Yasuo is on their team, he feeds (unlikely). But every time they play against him, he destroys them(unlikely as well). How can Yasuo be getting destroyed, but be op and destroy you? Like that is what we call a "Contradiction" I will link the definition here, https://www.google.com/#q=contradiction.

They say he isn't hard to counter, that they destroy him most games, and that he isn't that hard to shut down because he is squishy and one stun is all it takes, but then they say he has a toxic kit, that he can't be outplayed, and it only leads to him being "OP". Excuse me If I don't understand this, but either you are beating him in lane because you can counter him, or his kit is sooo toxic that you can't. I will link the definition once more https://www.google.com/#q=contradiction.

I see bronze/wood/silver players crying about Yasuo on here like they are preaching in a church, but I don't see Yasuo get much play time in anything gold or above. So either the bad players (I am not considering myself good, don't go there, I know you were about to.) on the lower tiers of ranked are right, or Yasuo is actually not such a great champion or hard to beat once you invest time to learn about his kit, his weaknesses, how to counter him, and how to counter pick.

All I see is "his kit is overloaded" on these threads, But from what I know of the game, everything of his kit, be it his windwall, his shield, or his tornado, are all easily baited out and predictable. They have short durations and anyone with an auto attack (everyone) can lower his shield with one.His windwall is 4 seconds, which if you can't wait to launch your entire kit into, is easily avoided and stepped through.

I see everyone crying about Yauso on here because he is playing his role as a fighter, who is meant to deal a lot of damage late game, but he is easily shut down, easily ganked, easily denied farm and kills. I hope most of you realise he is meant to fight right? That if you go after him in a 1v1, or better yet, 1v1 with minions around you, that is his niche. You will be rekted. His win rate is 48%. He just got nerfed for his tank build, which by the way was the result of a bug combined with fervor never having been nerfed at that point in time. That is not Yasuo's fault, but the game designers being over loaded with work to fix everything at once, especially since a live or hot fix to the game ends up crashing the game for many and does not allow them to play.

I have yet to read or see one legitimate argument to even consider Yasuo in need of nerfs, much less for him to need them before all the other champions with issues are address. Like Really people. Stop, it's embarrassing reading these posts.

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Fuh Queue2 votes

A long, irrelevant post.

Bultz1 votes

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A long, irrelevant post.

Well Yasuo hate thread after Yasuo hate thread are being upvoted, without legitimate argument, just like your post which offers no counter argument or reliance to the balance of the champion.

The JigSAW2 votes

Yet another post by a Yasuo main attempting in Vayne to keep their precious snowflake champion from the well-deserved nerfs they have coming.

Why does he deserve nerfs? Because he has double crit chance, a 4 second indestructible wind wall, a 0.5 sec cooldown on an E dash at level 1, a Q that can hit 7 body lengths away and apply on-hit effects, a shield that regenerates in combat, and an ult that has between 23-75 seconds of cooldown that grants 50% bonus armor pen for 15 seconds just for being used and refreshes his shield. That's why. This is the worst kit I've ever seen, its ebola mixed with cancer dabbed in zika.

Beating Yasuo is fun but here's the thing: Not every member of a team can do it. So, if I'm up against him, he won't be fed. But if he's fed by somebody else, and he steamrolls like his broken ass always does, its harder to do anything about it. I've played as him and against him for 3 years, there are people who have never played against him and will feed him and make life more miserable since it takes little for him to get strong.

You quote the winrate a lot, but it means so little when champs with higher winrates barely get touched and ones with lower rates get nerfed into oblivion. I also know that the winrate is artificially low because some of those Yas mains ragequit and cost the team the game, partially because they know if they lose, it makes it less likely their champ will get touched, but guess what? FINALLY they caught on.

He needs what is coming his way. Then again, not like there will be a choice come Monday.. Camille

Ralanr2 votes

You're only good point is the ult cooldown honestly.

Bultz1 votes

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You're only good point is the ult cooldown honestly.

Lol they down voted you and me because they have no legit arguments lolz.z..z..z..z

Bultz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The JigSAW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VQVWIR3g,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-10T18:18:13.149+0000)

Yet another post by a Yasuo main attempting in Vayne to keep their precious snowflake champion from the well-deserved nerfs they have coming.

Yet another clueless poster who has no clue about the champion chimming his two cents in without actually having played the champion in any manner to have the right to say anything, but probably got destroyed by him and is here to whine to me about how you know my champion better than I do. Right.

Why does he deserve nerfs? Because he has double crit chance, a 4 second indestructible wind wall, a 0.5 sec cooldown on an E dash at level 1, a Q that can hit 7 body lengths away and apply on-hit effects, a shield that regenerates in combat, and an ult that has between 23-75 seconds of cooldown that grants 50% bonus armor pen for 15 seconds just for being used and refreshes his shield. That's why. This is the worst kit I've ever seen, its ebola mixed with cancer dabbed in zika.

Having a double crit doesn't give you the right to be nerfed. Lolz lax arguments i swear. Read what you said please, a 4 second win wall. Must be super hard for you to counter that in any way, like oh I don't know, stepping through it, waiting the four seconds, not launching attacks at it. His mobility is his whole theme. Lets just get rid of Mundo's healing, lux's stuns, or rengar's invisibility while we are at it lol. A q, which like most cc attacks, hits multiple people? what will they think of next! A shield that is auto poked. SO much outplay he has on you. An ult that does no damage for near 45 minutes of the game and is used more so for cc? Amazing logic friend. He gets armor pen from it too? not like his kit scales off items and his whole build depends on him getting into 30 minutes of the game or being extremely fed or anything. It's cancer? lol go play yasuo for an entire season of ranked, then please come back here and tell me how far you got with this op op op champion lols.

Beating Yasuo is fun but here's the thing: Not every member of a team can do it. So, if I'm up against him, he won't be fed. But if he's fed by somebody else, and he steamrolls like his broken ass always does, its harder to do anything about it. I've played as him and against him for 3 years, there are people who have never played against him and will feed him and make life more miserable since it takes little for him to get strong.

Not every member of the team can beat Yasuo? Oh my, it's like riot made Yasuo's primary role dueling and fights so that not everyone can beat him. That is ludacris m8, you must be onto something amazing. So what you are saying is that he is not broken cause you can beta him, but others can't because they have no skill and that is the champions fault? please go on m8, you're like a legit genius. If you fed him or lack the skill to play him that is your damn fault, this applies to every fucking champion.

You quote the winrate a lot, but it means so little when champs with higher winrates barely get touched and ones with lower rates get nerfed into oblivion. I also know that the winrate is artificially low because some of those Yas mains ragequit and cost the team the game, partially because they know if they lose, it makes it less likely their champ will get touched, but guess what? FINALLY they caught on.

Maybe, just maybe it is because actual math is used and observation and not just stupid useless posts without logic, reasoning, and a legitimate argument that other champions are being nerfed and he isn't? No one loses on purpose take your head out your ass ffs.

He needs what is coming his way. Then again, not like there will be a choice come Monday.. Camille

Being left alone because you have no legitimate argument ? Then you are right friend. lolz

A Doorknob1 votes

Your arguments are pretty bad...Jigsaw out debated you this one. You practically cherry picked as much as you could, made bad comparisons and attempted curve the arguments your way by attempting to make him look stupid by passively-aggressively calling him dumb... You've explained nothing and in the process of writing all of that but show us that you're bitter and angry person. Spend more time creating a valid arguments than being angry at a post. If somebody doesn't agree with your opinion it doesn't mean you need to be bitter about it, you are entitled to your own.

Bultz1 votes

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Your arguments are pretty bad...Jigsaw out debated you this one. You practically cherry picked as much as you could, made bad comparisons and attempted curve the arguments your way by attempting to make him look stupid by passively-aggressively calling him dumb... You've explained nothing and in the process of writing all of that but show us that you're bitter and angry person. Spend more time creating a valid arguments than being angry at a post. If somebody doesn't agree with your opinion it doesn't mean you need to be bitter about it, you are entitled to your own.

Where do you see him out debate me in any fucking manner m8? Are you a bit mental? his logic was people with no skill lose to Yasuo so nerf him. Fucking right in the head are you? I addressed every fucking thing he said and that isn't cherry picking. I didn't do anything but point out facts which make him look dumb, just Like you look. I legitimately posted facts and statistic and so far all you have done is insult me with still no fucking argument as to how the fuck I am wrong.

Maybe you should actually address anything about the thread before posting yeah m8? Me opposing his point because everything he said was stupid, just like everything you just said was, isn't me being bitter, it's me being right. You have not fucking once said anything to counter my main point of this thread and went on some stupid tirade to try to justify you idiot logic. Please think before you post here.

A Doorknob1 votes

Lmao.

Spicy Rice1 votes

And what has jigsaw done, but the exact same thing. Cherry picked strengths, ignored all weaknesses

The JigSAW1 votes

I know Yasuo very well. I've beaten almost every single one I've been up against because of how reckless and predictable you guys are.

My first three games with Yasuo I got a penta each time. This was in 2013 when he first came out - he got nerfed, and frankly he had it coming. I routinely see people do exceptionally well with him that cannot play other fighter champions nearly as well, which is another sign the champ is too strong.

I've played as Yasuo - I was behind 0-3 or 0-4 in one game - came back and got 10-15 kills and won. Why? Beyond ridiculous E cooldown, on-hit effects on a Q that can hit 7 body lengths away, all of that helps get kill after kill. Frankly, I hate playing him because of how easy it is. Yeah, he can be countered by specific champions but he's far too powerful and Riot's noted that, so he's on "the list" for nerfs thankfully.

My problem is the ones who cannot beat him, and thus feed him to the point he can go kill most of the other teammates who did NOT feed him. I always try to roam to stop him from getting fed because its just a pain to deal with.

I know for a fact some Yasuo mains throw games to keep the winrate low - why? They simply told me, arrogantly as you did. They truly believe they are special little snowflakes.

The choice was Camille - I must say, she wrecks him pretty good. Nothing like stunning a hyperaggressive Yas with her E and then ulting around the turret!

As far as the insults and profanity used against me in your post - Thank you for proving my point about the type of person who plays that particular champion.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

First of all we hate Yasuo because of his toxic kit that makes the game feel like chore to play, especially in laning phase, even when I hard counter him I just cant enjoy the game. Second he is a bit broken, not by much, his 2 items for 100% crit allow him too many slots for tanky build and that hasnt changed much since the nerfs. And lastly, he has a huge playrate all the way to challenger where he also dominates, some challenger korea players even spoke that he is the most broken champion in the league that is gated only by the skill of his player, so if you play perfectly its impossible to lose. So yeah he stomps only bronzies, but I hope that you challenjours Yasuo mains can enjoy the nerfs with us ;)

Bultz1 votes

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First of all we hate Yasuo because of his toxic kit that makes the game feel like chore to play, especially in laning phase, even when I hard counter him I just cant enjoy the game. Second he is a bit broken, not by much, his 2 items for 100% crit allow him too many slots for tanky build and that hasnt changed much since the nerfs. And lastly, he has a huge playrate all the way to challenger where he also dominates, some challenger korea players even spoke that he is the most broken champion in the league that is gated only by the skill of his player, so if you play perfectly its impossible to lose. So yeah he stomps only bronzies, but I hope that you challenjours Yasuo mains can enjoy the nerfs with us ;)

His kit isn't toxic, you not being able to outplay doesn't concern me what so ever. I don't care if you don't enjoy the game, that is illegitimate for nerfs. He isn't broken, that is his passive. His tanky build was nerfed and his win rate fell hard so your "he can be tanky" falls flat. His play rate is 13% most of which is in lower elo. He isn't played by nearly 90% of players os shhh I have statistic you have bullshit. He is meant for fights of course he will win them. If you played perfectly as luc or blitz, you would perfectly stun and grab, but they are meant for other purposes in game, he is meant to fight. Like amazinging logic m8. He has no nerfs coming, thanks.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

No nerfs? Ahahahahha he is getting nerfed at 7.1 or 7.2 confirmed by RITO , enjoy them Cancersuo main, I wont argue with you any more, everyone hates your cancerous champion so that probably means you are the loser here, get downvoted some more from all my smurfs and bye.

Bultz1 votes

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No nerfs? Ahahahahha he is getting nerfed at 7.1 or 7.2 confirmed by RITO , enjoy them Cancersuo main, I wont argue with you any more, everyone hates your cancerous champion so that probably means you are the loser here, get downvoted some more from all my smurfs and bye.

They said they would look at him over the season and compare him and observe him lol they by no means said they will nerf him. so instead of The bullshit you're spewing, i will go with that. You suckign at the game doesnt bother btw.

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