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Udyr is so brain-dead it's not even funny.

OatheSworn··12 votes·2,202 views

He literally cannot miss. A single one. Of his ruddy abilities. Every single one of them is basically an auto attack buff. THIS IS NOT OK. Let's just say he runs into your lane to gank. Bear stance - gives movespeed and next attack stuns target. Guess what? You are Zed and think you can shadow away? HA. NOPE. He runs you down and stuns with AN AUTO-ATTACK then your enemy laner just rapes you. Pretend he tries to auto with bear stance and for some random reason hits a minion. Doesn't matter, he goes again, auto-attacks you and stuns because for some odd reason, RIOT made it so that every auto-attack while he is in bear stance stuns because of its "persistent effect." He has a shield, that is on a 6 second cooldown. It also gives him lifesteal. Basically a better version of Lee Sin's W when cast on self. His tiger stance. Ranked second on his cancer abilities. All he does is bear stance, tiger stance and shreds you. If he gets low? Turtle stance. If he needs AOE? Pheonix Stance. If you seriously want League to be fun, fix this brain-dead champion.

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Vapor Wave Vibes3 votes

Pretty sure you're just bad if you can't get away from udyr in midlane without him flashing on you. Udyr is a melee champ with only 1 cc ability and he has to walk up and hit you with, which makes me question why you think him not being able to miss it is bad. Every auto in bear stance doesn't stun only the first 1 does then it goes on cd until you can stun again. Really udyr only uses 3 stances in a game. Really he's not hard to play against since he's so linear.

OatheSworn4 votes

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Pretty sure you're just bad if you can't get away from udyr in midlane without him flashing on you. Udyr is a melee champ with only 1 cc ability and he has to walk up and hit you with, which makes me question why you think him not being able to miss it is bad. Every auto in bear stance doesn't stun only the first 1 does then it goes on cd until you can stun again. Really udyr only uses 3 stances in a game. Really he's not hard to play against since he's so linear.

Nope, I was Katarina and was standing roughly around the center when he comes charging in from the side bush. I shunpo behind to my minions AND flash but he still catches me. That's not just "bad" he's just too fast.

Iręlía1 votes

The only thing about udyr is his damage output rn.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

lol

SEKAI1 votes

You ignore the fact that being a balls of stats who is ENTIRELY melee, he has to get into your face and stay in your face to kill you.

His W, E, and R are rarely problems, the only one that constitutes a problem in his kit is problem his Tiger Stance Q given a lot of times it shreds people a bit too quickly. I am not too sure if it's a problem with Lethal Tempo or Press the Attack or whatnot, his damage output can be pretty insane atm, and I think it's specifically to do with his Tiger Stance or its interaction with certain setups more than anything else in his kit.

Udyr's Bear Stance E also can not chain stun you because it has an internal cooldown of 5 sec, meaning a target stunned by him will be immune to his stun slap for 5 seconds. And I am also not too sure about the "for some odd reason" bit, what's wrong with a BEAR stance stunning you with a slap, you wanna have a go with a real bear to see how that works lol?

OatheSworn4 votes

The problem is that he gets "into your face" pretty easily and once he's there, it's incredibly difficult to get away at the point.

And no, I never said anywhere that he can stun you twice in a row over and over. I said that if for some reason he misclicked and hit a minion with bear stance, he can still stun on his next autos as long as he is still in bear stance. Read properly please. What I want is for the bear stance to stun only one target instead of him being able to stun one target after another in bear stance. Team fights against a fed Udyr who has lots of health and still can deal tons of damage isn't any fun especially if he can tank long enough to stun at least 3 people before going turtle stance and backing off. His abilities are, after all, 6 second cool-downs.

Madtiger771 votes

ITS 10000000 TIMES WORSE AGAINST YI YOU CAN NOT FIGHT HIM UNTIL LVL 18 he will just kill you and you cant do anything about it at ll if he invades its gg like for real you just die or lose all your farm rito just kinda forgot to give yi anyway to fight udry at all its just over

SEKAI1 votes

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ITS 10000000 TIMES WORSE AGAINST YI YOU CAN NOT FIGHT HIM UNTIL LVL 18 he will just kill you and you cant do anything about it at ll if he invades its gg like for real you just die or lose all your farm rito just kinda forgot to give yi anyway to fight udry at all its just over

Firstly, this thread is 10 months old. Create your own thread if you must, it's not like your post has anything to do with OP.

Secondly, Yi is at his weakest in early game (and strongest in mid-late game) and thus extremely vulnerable to invades. There is a reason why Yi's in-game performance deteriorate against counter-junglers or similar junglers that force early duels in jungles. If Yi chooses to invade and wins it says more about the player and less about the champion.

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