I just saw a Graves with over 200 mr and armor

Caítlyn·May 26, 2016·1 votes·488 views

All he had was

This is balanced how?

8 Comments

aaronautumnMay 26, 20161 votes

it just is

Buff Jax pleaseMay 26, 20161 votes

Its fine...he needs to be tankier than any bruiser because he also has more damage, range and safety than them

CaítlynMay 26, 20161 votes

I hated him back when he was in bot lane and now you guys have to deal with him. Sorry about that.

Doctor JarvisMay 26, 20161 votes

There's literally no way he had 200 armor. If we assume +9 from Runes and then the +5% from masteries, even at level 18, he's below 100. Plus a theoretical 30 from his E and he's got, like, 125. His MR doesn't even scale with level, so with Maw and E, he has 90. +27 from scaling MR runes, and then 5% makes that like...+4.5. There is literally no way. EDIT Alright so I misread the wiki article on Graves. Yes, he CAN get those numbers, but it takes a long time, and it falls off really quickly.

CaítlynMay 26, 20161 votes

His E gives him 120 armor and mr. 120.

RossendaleMay 26, 20161 votes

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I just looked it up. His E gives him 120 armor and mr. 120.

Yeah but that's at max rank with full stacks, and honestly if you let Graves live long enough in a teamfight that he gets to full E stacks then you're doing something wrong. Hell, some teamfights won't even last that long altogether.

CaítlynMay 26, 20161 votes

He heals for 500 per shot and is tanky as hell for free. Hes the tankiest dude on the team!

That 120 armor/mr thing shouldnt exist, at all.

KaiokoMay 26, 20161 votes

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There's literally no way he had 200 armor. If we assume +9 from Runes and then the +5% from masteries, even at level 18, he's below 100. Plus a theoretical 30 from his E and he's got, like, 125. His MR doesn't even scale with level, so with Maw and E, he has 90. +27 from scaling MR runes, and then 5% makes that like...+4.5. There is literally no way. EDIT Alright so I misread the wiki article on Graves. Yes, he CAN get those numbers, but it takes a long time, and it falls off really quickly.

It's the fact that you can stack E 4 times - you are right however it does fall off and he's got to build up to it in a fight.