Popping Yasuo's shield should count as assist-worthy

morris1·8/9/2016, 7:08:13 AM·184 votes·4,740 views

If you didn't know, if you damage someone but don't manage to actually do damage past the shield you will not count as part of the assist. With other champions, shields are a total different mechanic since they last longer and eventually run out, but Yasuo's shield is huge and only lasts 1 second while being permanent before damage is taken*. As such, if a support uses an auto attack to remove Yasuo's shield, helping his carry kill Yasuo easier since the shield is now gone; that should be worth an assist.

*The same thing applies to Malphite.

*Not tested: Malzahar's passive pop interaction with CCs that do no damage (Elise E) and Mordekaiser's shield.

55 Comments

Zedex8/9/2016, 1:21:01 PM41 votes

I think every shield getting damaged should apply an assist to who damaged it, not just the passive shields of Malph and Yasuo.

Sire Hippington8/9/2016, 3:12:16 PM11 votes

Dealing damage to any shield should be assist worthy, since helping to break through the shield is also helping to kill the target.

Hornypotsmoker8/9/2016, 7:31:25 PM6 votes

Also it is worth mentioning that as Illaoi if I land my (E) Test of Spirit I don't get an assist. [slayer-jinx-unamused] I made him stay here so you could get the kill otherwise he would have left the area an would have triggered the slow and I would have at least a GOD DAM ASSIST.....sorry its happened a few times. /salt/

Warlord Zudane8/9/2016, 4:35:15 PM4 votes

Honestly, this is a problem? I love playing Soraka , and a heal or shield (not sure which part) counts for an assist. I can ult and heal my whole team to save someone from dying, turn it around to a kill and get an assist when I was across the map and only did a heal.

But you're saying that someone can actually directly hit Yasou, remove his shield.... and get no credit for it?

Yea, this assist thing needs a tweak, assists should be easier to get.

LeBoosted8/9/2016, 1:03:41 PM3 votes

One time a Gragas Jung and a midlane Yasuo dived a lvl 6 zilean (me) they both died from turret aggro, but I couldn't get a kill from Yasuo because of his shield :(

LU Vanilla Rice 8/10/2016, 4:24:30 PM3 votes

I was unaware it didn't count as an assist, but assuming it's true and not a bug, this definitely needs to be fixed.

Kanzaki Ranko8/9/2016, 7:24:10 PM2 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUVvFcqrrUc

The Yetii Rider8/9/2016, 1:37:29 PM2 votes

Malphite's shield regenerates, though. It's not like Yas where one hit will remove the whole thing, Malphite just has a shield that needs to be gotten through, and if you don't damage him again in 6 seconds it reforms.

ValyrianBlade8/9/2016, 5:08:33 PM2 votes

I'm on board with this, but there are a lot of other things I think need assists added to them as well (some of these may already credit an assist, but they're all edge cases so I'm just going to list them all):

Any movement speed buff that any champion who got a kill or assist received within 10 seconds of the kill (anything from Janna's passive to Sivir's ultimate to using an item's active).

Any combat buff (e.g. Jarvan's flag's attack speed, zeke's active, etc...)

Any enemy debuff (e.g. armor reduction, true sight application [e.g. Caitlyn ulting Vayne right before she tumbles, allies kill Vayne before Caitlyn's ultimate fires/reaches vayne]).

Any forced repathing (e.g. Anivia's wall, Jarvan's ultimate, etc...)

And then, while this one definitely won't ever be given assist status, I really do think people should get assists for cutting off the escape path. It's so annoying when the enemy sidesteps your skillshot or turns around because they see you coming down the other side of a small path, thereby dying to an ally and you don't get an assist. You helped, they escaped if you didn't block their way out...

Junkο8/9/2016, 6:08:36 PM2 votes

This seems to happen on every shield (except maybe Morde???) and yeah it really needs to be changed.

XinZhao2WinNhao8/10/2016, 1:03:25 AM2 votes

I think hitting them with anything whether it dealt dmg or not should be assist.

PaladinNO8/9/2016, 8:00:39 PM1 votes

What about vision abilities? Like Ashe's E?

Cogito Ergo Sol 8/9/2016, 10:04:45 PM1 votes

I love how this thread is focused on Yasuo when really all champions with a shield/who get shielded have the same problem. Just another thread to hate yasuo tbh Anyway yes, I agreee. Shield are techinically temporary (?) bonus hp, so if someone with 1800 base hp gets shielded for 200 points his EHP is 2000. I don't see why if someone (theoretically speaking it always happens if you are behind/you are a support who builds w/e except ap) damages x champ with a shield shouldn't get an assist. +1

Ashu Primu8/10/2016, 1:02:08 AM1 votes

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If you didn't know, if you damage someone but don't manage to actually do damage past the shield you will not count as part of the assist. With other champions, shields are a total different mechanic since they last longer and eventually run out, but Yasuo's shield is huge and only lasts 1 second while being permanent before damage is taken*. As such, if a support uses an auto attack to remove Yasuo's shield, helping his carry kill Yasuo easier since the shield is now gone; that should be worth an assist.

*The same thing applies to Malphite.

*Not tested: Malzahar's passive pop interaction with CCs that do no damage (Elise E) and Mordekaiser's shield.

I agree that this could be worthy of an assist. I really only find Yasuo to be my strong champion right now. I used to main master Y and Jax, but since they removed sated devourer, it's not really as good to tryhard as them anymore. I really don't want Yasuo gutted, only light nerfs to his shield and maybe his windwall cd.

Eeyore8/11/2016, 1:25:05 AM1 votes

Damaging a Yasuo who has his shield primed doesn't trigger Jhin's Deadly Flourish passive, either, including if Jhin himself attacks Yasuo. This is true even if there is excess damage that isn't blocked. Now you mention it, I wonder if all shields block Jhin's passive...

ZT Xperimentor8/9/2016, 4:15:21 PM1 votes

That explains a few things . . .

Sylvant8/10/2016, 12:48:03 PM1 votes

thats very unbalanced and should definitely be changed. Id also like to add the thing with damage taken. Being the one to tank the enemy should net you assist, especially when you receive tons of damage and make them chase you/hard dive. Occasionally i had that happen to me. I take tons of damage by an enemy, at the same time i unwillingly serve as a bait, which my team uses wisely and manage to score a kill, but at the same time i failed to do that 1 aa on the enemy which deprive me of assist...cmon i played key part in the kill, eventho i didnt do any damage(not to consider possible turret damage).

Serge THE GREAT8/9/2016, 3:44:06 PM1 votes

I've noticed this as well, and it's very annoying.

tituncho8/10/2016, 11:25:27 AM

true Yasuo nerf thats s*it item 3070