Why is Veigar allowed to do 5,000 HP shots?

Great Muta··2 votes·385 views

What in the living hell. Why is this allowed? That's not fair. He did more damage as one person than 4 of us did together. This makes assassins look like jokes.

This is the type of shit that makes people not want to play anymore. Why bother trying to win a game when one person can literally take out 3 people in one hit.

17 Comments

Nahui3 votes

I'm not sure what dealt a 5000 damage shot, so you need to be more specific.

Great Muta1 votes

He had a combo. Whatever his 3 main attacks are with one being the gate/cage/wall.

Meep Man1 votes

You mean EWQR (or EWRQ)? That combo is his bread and butter that is hard to pull off, but rewarding when you do.

Paroe6 votes

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He had a combo. Whatever his 3 main attacks are with one being the gate/cage/wall.

Wait. Youre complaining about his entire combo doing 5000 damage? Uhh... its the entire rotation of the games potentially strongest burst mage. if he lands his E Q and has a thousand or more AP, of course hes going to do a lot of damage with his ult. its an execute.

Nahui1 votes

The AP required for him to deal 5000 is unusual. You would need to be at the lowest threshold of health for the ult, from him to land all 3, and him to have an extreme amount of Ap well well over 1000. The highest realistic AP I've seen on a veigar was 1350. And even then, not 5000. And this is assuming no MR, no banshees, etc.

Paroe1 votes

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The AP required for him to deal 5000 is unusual. You would need to be at the lowest threshold of health for the ult, from him to land all 3, and him to have an extreme amount of Ap well well over 1000. The highest realistic AP I've seen on a veigar was 1350. And even then, not 5000. And this is assuming no MR, no banshees, etc.

230+0.6 300+1.0 350+0.75x2 (700+1.5)

1000AP: 230+600 (830) 300+1000 (1300) 700+1500 (2200)

thats already 4800 before resistances.

Ive seen veigars get 1500 in 40 minute games because they were allowed to free farm the entire game and had item 3089 item 3116 item 3285 item 3020 item 3048 item 3135

Nahui1 votes

Right. So, 4800 before resistances from a typical AP late game value. Now of course an infinitely scaling champion will get stronger and stronger, as they are meant to. Now the key is, before resistances.

The "squishy" can have between 50-150 MR by the end of the game. That number is SEVERELY cut.

Paroe1 votes

Why'd you let him farm?

Great Muta1 votes

Veigar vs Garen Top. I was the jungler.

I don't care how bad someone farms. This should not be possible. That's way too much damage for one champion. Makes assassins look like children. Even at my best with GP, I never hit more than 2800. Almost double that.

We were 5k in gold up, 5 dragons to 0, 1 baron a piece. Shouldn't have been possible. He didn't even need the rest of the team since 3 of us weren't super mobile.

Meep Man5 votes

A champion who can scale infinitely can deal infinite damage in time

Great Muta1 votes

So what about the other 120+ champs who can't?

Meep Man1 votes

So what about them?

Paroe3 votes

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Veigar vs Garen Top. I was the jungler.

I don't care how bad someone farms. This should not be possible. That's way too much damage for one champion. Makes assassins look like children. Even at my best with GP, I never hit more than 2800. Almost double that.

We were 5k in gold up, 5 dragons to 0, 1 baron a piece. Shouldn't have been possible. He didn't even need the rest of the team since 3 of us weren't super mobile.

Veigars ult is also a %increased damage execute. Depending on how farmed he was, like nasus, he could do a shit ton of damage.

Keepe1 votes

If assassins are LETTING him do such damage, then your assassins on the team ARE jokes.

BobaFlautist1 votes

Because you didn't buy item 3102 .

Astôlfo1 votes

lmfao this guy

DarkRitual1 votes

Because whoever he laned against fed him hard. Also because your jungler didn't focus on ganking him. It's not easy, but it's definately possible. He just needs to be shut down so your own midlaner can snowball and win before Veigar can get that far.

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