hes too damn strong. this champ gets too much damage off by building tankiness and having tp while using absolutley 0 brain cells. this isnt fun at all. i cant top at all without going vs ryze or gnar. when is top going to mean shit to any of riots balance team. u keep releasing cancerous shits to go top and ruin everything for us. seriously riot get ur shit together!
Kingsgrave3 votesHis Q damage is being lowered and 
is going to block 8 damage from not only Autos but Single Target Spells.
This will help out not only against the entirety of Ryze's combo, but it will help against Pantheon Q, Akali Q etc.,
BlackRaven1 votesHis Q damage is being lowered and
This will help out not only against the entirety of Ryze's combo, but it will help against Pantheon Q, Akali Q etc.,
thank the lord. thank you for this dude.
VerrKol1 votesHis Q damage is being lowered and
This will help out not only against the entirety of Ryze's combo, but it will help against Pantheon Q, Akali Q etc.,
Another awesome reason to max E on Pantheon.
Kuroi861 votesStill best to max Q first, higher base damage, E is scaling.
VerrKol2 votesStill best to max Q first, higher base damage, E is scaling.
You could not be more wrong. Q has better scaling (1.4 vs 0.6), but E has better base damage against champions. Plus, it's AoE which let's you push the wave while harassing.
Kuroi861 votesQ: Physical Damage: 65 / 105 / 145 / 185 / 225 (+ 140% bonus AD)
Certain Death Damage: 130 / 210 / 290 / 370 / 450 (+ 280% bonus AD)
Plus IE +50% critical strike damage
E: Physical Damage Per Strike Against Champions: 26 / 46 / 66 / 86 / 106 (+ 120% bonus AD)
Total Physical Damage Against Champions: 80 / 140 / 200 / 260 / 320 (+ 360% bonus AD)
Not to mention E is incredibly good at stacking BC shredding. Leveling both is good, though from personal experience, maxing Q first makes assassinating a WHOLE lot easier. With just IE and BC it's possible to Assassinate people without even procing the certain death passive.
Kuroi862 votesTp has always been a common summoner run on top lane. When laning against Ryze, using someone that deals magic damage can wreck him. Galio, Cho'Gath, Nunu, just about any other mage. This forces Ryze to decide between being tanky, or dealing damage. A good thing with mages, there are always options that allow you to get decently tanky, combine this with how much damage a mage can output and voila, you see that Ryze really isn't that impressive among mages.
BlackRaven1 votesTp has always been a common summoner run on top lane. When laning against Ryze, using someone that deals magic damage can wreck him. Galio, Cho'Gath, Nunu, just about any other mage. This forces Ryze to decide between being tanky, or dealing damage. A good thing with mages, there are always options that allow you to get decently tanky, combine this with how much damage a mage can output and voila, you see that Ryze really isn't that impressive among mages.
he doesnt have to decide shit, simply because of how stupid ap itemization is, he can do both at once. every item he gets gives him mana and hp while giving ap. his build is what makes him even more broken.
Kuroi862 votesOnly one item gives Health, Ap and Mana, that's Rod of Ages, and it takes time to stack. Note, NO item gives both MR and Mana. Two items give Mana and Armor. Ryze scales better with Mana than he does with Ap, if you see Ryze trying to stack Ap, GG, you just won lane.
ProfDrDeath1 votesAlso, there are two MR/AP items:
Athene's (which sucks donkey nuts on Ryze) and Abyssal, which isn't particularily efficient.
Kuroi861 votesTrue, either item can be great buys on most mages. But Ryze simply doesn't scale with them. I think he genuinely scales better with Frozen Heart than he does with Rabadon' Deathcap.
7ha7guy7772 votesyou can't prevent a champion from going to a specific lane or jungling. even if you nerf them so hard that they aren't even viable anymore, they can still go wherever they want. if you're not playing a game mode where you can't see what champions the other team is picking, you can pick champions with more range than ryze or champions like galio who benefit from building tanky. alternately, you could take champions like cho'gath and malzahar and silence him so he can't use his combo for up to 3 seconds.
BlackRaven1 votesyou can't prevent a champion from going to a specific lane or jungling. even if you nerf them so hard that they aren't even viable anymore, they can still go wherever they want. if you're not playing a game mode where you can't see what champions the other team is picking, you can pick champions with more range than ryze or champions like galio who benefit from building tanky. alternately, you could take champions like cho'gath and malzahar and silence him so he can't use his combo for up to 3 seconds.
yea but cho and malz have no mobility, i would be risking late game just to be able to survive early game. thats not fair. ryze shouldntt be so hard to counter in a lane that is continuosly ignored and fucked over.
Salidfingers1 votesIf you see Ryze first pick what would you pick to counter him.
AetherKingdom1 votesIf you see Ryze first pick what would you pick to counter him.
dodge