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Is it time for the ADC to retire from bot lane?

SlashStriker··5 votes·944 views

top - AD / AP mid AD / AP Jungle AD / AP Bot - AD Only???? These guys can't play anywhere else than bot lane??? REALLY????

if i am physical damage jungler like Yi MasterYi for instance how is that benefit me from ganking bot lane that also does physical damage jungle???? I am far better snowballing lanes that does magic damage so we have spice on our team with damage instead ganking bot lane. Not to mention that Yi snowballs way harder than any ADC in the game. I pretty much know if i am ahead enemy will ignore MR and will stack armor only which will make our ADC even more useless

On top of that bot lane want to report me for no gank while they are in feeding frenzy mode with a Nami that harasses me the entire game about shitty ass reports like i give a fk or something and is toxic like hell

Aint time bot lane to get spiced up with the damage?

vayne is underestimated jungler - her ganks are really strong and she is SKirmisher ADC. Ganks are really strong Graves only jungles and top lanes and some times ADC but sometimes Twitch stealth so no problem with that. Who will know he ganks? Basically AD Evelynn on steroid

22 Comments

Erockandroll5 votes

I mean really, the only reason ADC's is in the duo lane, is because they arn't level reliant like most classes. Their actual damage is reliant more on their items. which is why the ADC can afford to share their lane with an XP leech, as long as they get all the farm.

They tried making Mord a bot laner simply by allowing him to cheat that XP leach problem. Yet that just ended up making him bonkers. So unless Riot finds another way to alter the duo lane make up, we will be seeing the ADC's in the duo lane for a while.

That doesn't mean that ADC means lack of magic damage. ADC's like Corki and Kog'maw are good examples of ADC's that add tons of magic damage to the team comp.

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but tha late game full ap support sona damage

I guess if you had to. But the enemy probably has a lot more problems if they allow the support to get that fed. (Or your team yells at your for KSing)

Sire Hippington1 votes

There are enough adc that actually scale damn well with levels, and quite some other champs that depend heavily on items... The pint is more that the adc+support duo is just nearly unbeatable if played correctly, they win most lane matchups expect vs heavy snowball picks, vs whom they can play save and just outscale.

Adc are just monsters with a stupidly strong lane and the most absurd lategame. They only have two real weaknesses - they are vulberable, which gets covered up by their sup in a duo lane, and they usually have a weak midgame if they fall behind.

Jbels2 votes

I think you're missing something here. You should definitely snowball your ADC whenever possible because Physical damage or not, your adc is the only physical damage dealer on the team that can get away with buying an item that ignores 45% of the enemy team's bonus armor

Jalkan2 votes

What?

FiddlesOnTheRoof2 votes

I'm going to guess you're silver or lower, aren't you? Nothing wrong with that- it's just that those are the only elos I hear that from. And "yi scales harder than any adc" made be chuckle.

SlashStriker1 votes

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I'm going to guess you're silver or lower, aren't you? Nothing wrong with that- it's just that those are the only elos I hear that from. And "yi scales harder than any adc" made be chuckle.

with the way you build your carries i give you exactly 2 crits life or 1 second lifetime

Vayne the only marskman that can 1v1 Yi my guess is also you never met YI main do ya :3

FiddlesOnTheRoof1 votes

Draven, jhin, cait, jinx destroy yi. And ANY adc murders him if standing next to support. Yi is garbage at higher elo

Unpaladin1 votes

ADCs are picked because of they a core part of dealing DPS in teamfights and taking down towers.

Taking a DPS mage such as Ryze or Azir could be kind of plausible, but they have their own moments of weakness that makes more reliable ADC's stronger than them in general. There's also not so many of this type of champion plus and they'll often build mana items instead of pure damage. Towers won't go down as easy even with the new AP tower busting buff and honestly Doran's Blade is a bajillion times better for use in bot lane, too.

MisterHealYoGirl1 votes

Well, the multiplicative scaling that ADCs offer mean that they're more or less mandatory every game; it's just too much damage to pass up. With that in mind, you have three lanes that they could go in. AP carries and AD casters (who depend heavily on levels) do poorly when sharing XP with a support, so they typically take the additional safety of the shorter mid lane to survive. Top and bot are theoretically reversible (lane swaps, and so on), but placing your ADC bot, where they can help your team capitalize on Dragon is usually good.

tl;dr AP carries need levels to succeed, so they struggle in duo lanes. It can work if you have an ADC elsewhere, but it's just not that good.

cinomenapplebae1 votes

but tha late game full ap support sona damage

Reikken1 votes

Speaking of which, whatever happened to bot lane huehuekaiser?

ActivatingEMP1 votes

Hear me out- what if we took the ADC and put them mid every now and then, and then put a high scaling late game mate bot lane? I'm thinking Azir, veigar, and velkoz would work

Arakadia1 votes

How would you do that? Sounds interesting

TheThundersRoar1 votes

It could work, but it provides no advantages over the AP mid and AD bot unless the match-ups worked out in your favor.

Most people are just more comfortable playing (and more trusting of) AD bot, so you'd be unlikely to see an APC outside of premades.

ActivatingEMP1 votes

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It could work, but it provides no advantages over the AP mid and AD bot unless the match-ups worked out in your favor.

Most people are just more comfortable playing (and more trusting of) AD bot, so you'd be unlikely to see an APC outside of premades.

I think that the poke would be a big enough advantage, as well as easily available cc against non mobile targets, allowing for extreme harass and possibly kills

SnowLeopard911 votes

Once upon a time, Ashe went mid.

That is all.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Once upon a time, Ashe went mid.

That is all.

season 4. also tristana and varus.

season 6 with the marksmen update, corki and ezreal.

the problem with solo lane adc is usually that they tend to pop up when marksmen are batshit op in general and people are running 2 and 3 adc teamcomps.

there is still always a marksman on bot lane.

Sire Hippington1 votes

These guys can buy everywher else than botlane aswell, it's just that no one else can face them at bot, + they are safer bot(which does not mean they don't funktion elsewhere,).

Only Play Darius1 votes

I would be fine with ADC's being freed from bot lane if it meant that other classes could actually be viable there. And if the whole Mordekaiser fiasco is anything to go by then that isn't happening for a very long time. Right now there is absolutely nothing fair about getting crushed by an ADC top/mid/jg when you're playing a champ that doesn't have the option of going botlane like ADC's always have.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

Mage powerspikes are typically from levels, where ADC powerspikes come from items.

I've experimented with mages bot lane, and typically it doesn't work. They're too reliant on mana. They can outdamage their opponent until they run oom, and that's not usually enough because the enemy has a support to heal them and most likely dorans/lifesteal runes.

SlashStriker1 votes

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Mage powerspikes are typically from levels, where ADC powerspikes come from items.

I've experimented with mages bot lane, and typically it doesn't work. They're too reliant on mana. They can outdamage their opponent until they run oom, and that's not usually enough because the enemy has a support to heal them and most likely dorans/lifesteal runes.

Twitch and whats the exact Difference between Jungle Twitch and ADC Twitch?

The Bearded Bard1 votes

I don't get what you mean. ADC can play other places no problem, the problem is no one else fills the role of bot lane carry as well as ADC. Ezreal, Varus, Corki, Urgot, and Jhin are fine mid laners. Quinn, Urgot, Vayne, and Ezreal can all top lane just fine. Even as junglers Graves, Twitch, and Quinn can jungle.

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