Support idea, to give more pressure to asassins

Elros Thranduil··2 votes·271 views

Wouldn't a support with that ulti perfect? It would give some time and counterplays against some 1 shot asassins.

xxxxx marks an ally for two seconds. While the mark is active damage taken %70/80/90 will be given back to the dealer after the mark is gone.

pretty gg rengar,zed,lb.

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WolfChases3 votes

What the actuall fu*k man? Are you real or you have just got annihilated by an assassin?

Why the hell should ANYONE who plays assassin be punished for free just because your ADC did not position himself well or because his team was unable to protect him?

This sounds to me like this: "If an assassin manages to attack his primar target (read: ADC or a Mage) he will het punished straight away recieving 70/80/90% of the damage he dealt to his target.

Do you even know how much actually is recieving back 90% of the damage you just did? It basically means that you are going to die anyways if you kill an ADC.

Imagine that I am a full fed Rengar with one whole item and 2 levels ahead of your ADC, I am going to oneshoot him dealimg much more damage than the amount of health that underfed ADC has? That basically means that i'll probably do more damage to me than I did to him...roflmao.

This is by far the worst idea I ever read in last 3 years.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

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What the actuall fu*k man? Are you real or you have just got annihilated by an assassin?

Why the hell should ANYONE who plays assassin be punished for free just because your ADC did not position himself well or because his team was unable to protect him?

This sounds to me like this: "If an assassin manages to attack his primar target (read: ADC or a Mage) he will het punished straight away recieving 70/80/90% of the damage he dealt to his target.

Do you even know how much actually is recieving back 90% of the damage you just did? It basically means that you are going to die anyways if you kill an ADC.

Imagine that I am a full fed Rengar with one whole item and 2 levels ahead of your ADC, I am going to oneshoot him dealimg much more damage than the amount of health that underfed ADC has? That basically means that i'll probably do more damage to me than I did to him...roflmao.

This is by far the worst idea I ever read in last 3 years.

I personally don't play asassins neither adc. I watch dia1 players frequently and what I see is there are no counter plays against asassins. I mean even if there are some , few. You don't know how painful a fed Talon while he knows whats he doing after 1000 talon games with %70 win rate . Or same with zed. You feel extremly huge under pressure while you wait him initiate you, Zed's team win the fight. And now new meta 2-3 asassins in a team. This is just bullshit. I have 4.5k hp and 350 armor but any yasuo,zed,irelia,kha zix can 1 shot me. I am not duelist I know but I need to tank my team ohh wait zeds ulti just dealt 2k dmg.

WolfChases1 votes

You are simply not right dude. First of all, when it comes to Diamond 1 and Master games where someone can really be so God damn god on a specific champion isn't so hard to check if there is some Zed main queuing at the sane time you did. You can easily predict it and ban his Zed, Yasuo or whatever. I often watch sone good streamers on Twich and yes, they do that, I remember when I was watching Azoh playing Zed, he ALWAYS banned that Kha'Zix because one of the besyt master Kha'Zix was online and guy even asked them why the hell are they baning Kha'Zix and Azoh answered him that he know he is playing. There is a small number of players in really high ELO so it is not hard to "track them down".

When it comes to the actuall gameplay, no, Assassins do offer a lot of counter play. As a Rengar and Kha'Zix main, I really hate when enemy team is grouped around their ADC, I am really not that mad to press R and just rush in and kill him...lol, everyone will see that "!" and get ready to unleash the Kraken on me as soon as they see me midleap. In the other hand, Kha'Zix is even more predictable because ypo can see him, Talon also, his ultimate is really well telegraphed and once you see it everyone can get ready to protect you, any aoe stun on top of ADC as soon as Talon appears and BAM.

When it comes to "solo man ADC" who pushes bot alone at 30 minutes marh, well, he really deserves to get deleted by a Rengar, Kha, Talon, Zed or whayever because hes doing something he is not supposed to do and if theres Enemy rengar, why the hell should you even think about going anyehere solo?

I literally do not see a single problem there. I am not biased because I play and enjoy a lot of other champions so I dont have to protect Kha'Zix for ecample. you are simply wrong and that kind of spell or an item you are talking about is something Riot will never make. It doesen't affect only assassins but literally everyone and as I said, noone should ever get punished just randomly like that because of someones else misstake.

Stalinium2 votes

So basically a much more powerful Kayle ult?

I don't think Rito likes to give champions superior versions of another's ult (though you could argue Ryze ult > TahmKench ult). It makes for less distinct/unique gameplay As well, you made a post about counterplay, which makes me bring up Kayle's ult, because it's got about a solid 0 counterplay already.

As a Talon main trying to speak with as little bias as possible, group up. There is no better way to deter an assassin (after lane phase is over) than to simply not be alone.

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