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am I the only one who thinks Riot balancing team sukcs?

Elros Thranduil··7 votes·531 views

they make a champ with broken skillset and broken playstyle, then they keep nerfing him, then they decide to nerf him again, they think little reworking him would be good, then they dedice its being broken once again so they nerf, again they decide once more rework.(rengar)

or they nerf a champ really hard. Champ has %45 win rate overall. But they keep nerfing him because its op in high elo playstyle. But it doesnt mean high elo players better then low elo players, it only means they know how to use broken kit.(azir)

and the worse part is, they do balancing by high elo games, lcs etc. I know, professional arena is the most important thing I do really know but... Doesnt riot earn money mostly from the people who they do not care? A challanger player ovbiously has more rights and talking quality than a bronze player, lets say a challanger buys 1 skin per week and bronze buys 1 skin too. Guess what, there are 10 challanger players and 100.000 bronze players. So basically riot earns money from bronze guys but use all that money for challangers. It reminds me the french revulation. People started thjinking that they feel they get ignored. And this might make riot fall. Just saying.

im an high elo player btw. probably you will find nonsense what I just said, but i have seen a many good online games end, and i feel riot does something wrong.

17 Comments

Dynikus3 votes

they nerf champions based off of high elo play because high elo players actually know how to play the champions. buffing/nerfing based on low elo play wouldn't make any sense.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

I said that yet. High elo players do not play the champs, they use them. They pick only for winning and usually picking the broken ones. the thing im having problems is, %99 of the community has really bad win rate with X champ but %1 have %60 win rate with X champ so they nerf X champ. Why? Just because pros abusing his-her kit? That shouldnt be like that. you may be change something or buff another thing what could not effect the playstyle that much so there would be no problem. OR , you make a champ which isnt broken and stays as balanced. You may nerf him after item changes,meta changes etc but you cant nerf a champ just because people abused his kit. I believe riot doesnt care that much when realesing the champs. omg that champs look cool, lets realese it. people will buy skins Im sure... broken? Naah its not a problem we can overnerf him.

Dynikus2 votes

if people are abusing a champion's kit to get a 60% winrate, there's obviously a problem with that champion's kit that needs fixing. You don't nerf/buff based off random variables like player skill.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

this is why im trying to say for about 2 posts.

and also this is why I dont understand riot balance team logic. They do not guess or know a champs kit? its impossible a balance team can not now about it. I do really believe they do it occasionaly.

Dynikus1 votes

It sounded to me like you were saying a champion with a 60% winrate shouldn't be nerfed because players in low elo have a sub 50% winrate with them.

Treune811 votes

Taliyah, Lissandra, Gnar are op.Lets nerf Azir.Riot's absurd balance rules.

I left the game.You know reason.Balance problems.

adidas1 votes

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Taliyah, Lissandra, Gnar are op.Lets nerf Azir.Riot's absurd balance rules.

I left the game.You know reason.Balance problems.

i dont think lissandra is broken... Gnar yes taliyah yes

Treune812 votes

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i dont think lissandra is broken... Gnar yes taliyah yes

Yes she isn't broken but her competitive stats are ridiculous.58% p/b rate on patch 6.15.I hope they get same treatments like Azir.

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?season=S6&tournament=ALL&patch=6.15

adidas2 votes

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Yes she isn't broken but her competitive stats are ridiculous.58% p/b rate on patch 6.15.I hope they get same treatments like Azir.

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?season=S6&tournament=ALL&patch=6.15

I would rather fight lissandra than azir. Azir is harder to fight

Treune811 votes

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I would rather fight lissandra than azir. Azir is harder to fight

So? This isn't excuse.Just your opinion.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

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i dont think lissandra is broken... Gnar yes taliyah yes

Taliyah isn't broken...gnar? Not that much. Lissandra seems the most broken out of all of them but she's easy to lane against.

Handy Sandy 3 votes

{quoted}

Taliyah, Lissandra, Gnar are op.Lets nerf Azir.Riot's absurd balance rules.

I left the game.You know reason.Balance problems.

Yea they aren't OP...they really, REALLY aren't at all.

Communist Toast1 votes

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they make a champ with broken skillset and broken playstyle, then they keep nerfing him, then they decide to nerf him again, they think little reworking him would be good, then they dedice its being broken once again so they nerf, again they decide once more rework.(rengar)

or they nerf a champ really hard. Champ has %45 win rate overall. But they keep nerfing him because its op in high elo playstyle. But it doesnt mean high elo players better then low elo players, it only means they know how to use broken kit.(azir)

and the worse part is, they do balancing by high elo games, lcs etc. I know, professional arena is the most important thing I do really know but... Doesnt riot earn money mostly from the people who they do not care? A challanger player ovbiously has more rights and talking quality than a bronze player, lets say a challanger buys 1 skin per week and bronze buys 1 skin too. Guess what, there are 10 challanger players and 100.000 bronze players. So basically riot earns money from bronze guys but use all that money for challangers. It reminds me the french revulation. People started thjinking that they feel they get ignored. And this might make riot fall. Just saying.

im an high elo player btw. probably you will find nonsense what I just said, but i have seen a many good online games end, and i feel riot does something wrong.

I was actually thinking their balancing is amazing. I mean they have over 100 champions to take into account, no matter what you are gonna have 1 champ more powerful than most at any given time.

I can't think of a game that has over 100 champs where they are all balanced.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

this is why over 100 champ only 15-20 of them are regularly played. Why I see 4-5 champs in every game. why not other 96? because its all pretty balanced?

Communist Toast1 votes

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this is why over 100 champ only 15-20 of them are regularly played. Why I see 4-5 champs in every game. why not other 96? because its all pretty balanced?

easily more than 15-20 are regularly played

LU Vanilla Rice 1 votes

I mean, Riot is extremely large, and the most played online game right now. As well, they continue to have an extremely devoted following.

Their balancing is pretty good overall. They can be wrong at times, though I don't believe they've done anything extremely wrong, or don't do it frequently at least.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

you think so?

so you can explain me riot nerfing really huge after they realese Gnar, Azir, Kalista, Ekko, Sol, Taliyah. taliyah will get huge nerfs soon. just explain me why? Why they make a champ and nerf it really painfully after few weeks or 1 month after realese? They can not see through that this champ shouldnt be realesed that powerfull? is this a good balancing team you describe?

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