Illoai is broken

KingPontus··5 votes·1,496 views

I think that illaoi should of never been put into this game. she either needs a nerf or something else has got to change. She is way over powered and honestly makes playing not fun. she needs to have her ult changed and she needs lower ad scaling. I went into lane with her as pantheon with exhaust and built tank and she still almost one shot me with her ult. something really needs to be done. Illaoi summoner 3

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Dynikus8 votes

Something certainly does need to be done, but it's not a change to illaoi. You just need to learn to play against her.

Revali5 votes

you probably didn't run the fuck away when she ulted, exhaust wont save you from being slapped three times in a row.

not to mention pantheon has absolutely abysmal scaling compared to her, especially when you built tank.

Febos5 votes

Illaoi is a champion that requires "setup". What I mean is, Illaoi needs to be in lane for a few seconds to spawn her passive and be useful. Her ultimate is easy to play around. As soon as she ults you, you just back off until it expires. Much like Jax's R. The only troublesome thing about Illaoi is her E, but even that has counter-play, since you can just dodge it.

So, let's go over the facts:

  • Illaoi has 2 skills shots: Q and E
  • Illaoi needs some time to setup a lane
  • Illaoi suffers from the same problem as other Juggernauts: kite.
  • Her ultimate is stationary, meaning that you can just walk out of it

Illaoi is not overpowered. I don't know how she fares against other top laners, but I know she isn't overpowered.

18 NAKED COWB0YS1 votes

except no one backs off when jax presses r. illaoi is the only champ to pretty much win every single 1v1 with a click of a button. she e's you back out. dodge all her qs and tentacles. if she ults, back offf. if you try to gank and she presses r, back off.

is there a chance to back on rather than back off? is there a chance i can outplay a point and click? no.

not saying shes op at all just annoying tohave to play vs in every aspect.

dodgeball all lane long only to never be able to engage on her 1v1

EnterTheDark4 votes

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illaoi is the only champ to pretty much win every single 1v1 with a click of a button. >

Fiora

18 NAKED COWB0YS1 votes

fiora is equally as cancerous. except you can actually kill fiora in her ulti if you outplay. how does one outplay illaoi ulti without leaving her ulti range

Ralanr4 votes

CC her in the middle of the summoning animation and the first slam doesn't happen.

You're welcome.

Incognonymous2 votes

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except no one backs off when jax presses r. illaoi is the only champ to pretty much win every single 1v1 with a click of a button. she e's you back out. dodge all her qs and tentacles. if she ults, back offf. if you try to gank and she presses r, back off.

is there a chance to back on rather than back off? is there a chance i can outplay a point and click? no.

Back out if she E's you? That's literally the worst thing you can do. If she lands an E, fight her. It reduces the time she has to make you a vessel. Running ensures you become one. Dodge her Q, the windup is painful. Walk out of her ult, obviously, and since she likely used her W to engage, she has no course of action to handle you simply running away.

Illaoi is a juggernaut. Juggernauts only win when you play their game. They largely lack the tools to force you to play the game, so if you're losing to juggernauts, it has to be because you simply refused to play smart against them.

MaliciousX5 votes

You will always lose to illaoi if you fight her in her ult. You need to bait it out and then fight her while its down. Shes designed to be a strong laner, 1v1 champ, and teamfighter. But without her ult that threat is greatly reduced. Never fight in her ult. As soon as you see her ult animation start...back off and run away. Plain and simple. If you continue to fight after she ults, you will lose. If it hits you once, thats ok bc its rarely enough to kill you if it only hits you one time.

Desolas Arterius5 votes

Illaoi is far from broken. She's only "broken" against players who don't know what she does, or don't know how to move. Trust me, she's not even close to being broken or OP. If anything they nerfed her really hard so she's in a meh state right now.

Key tips I can give you to help lane against Illaoi:

1: Move. If you don't move then you're giving her easy setups for her Q and ult. Literally move out of her Q. It's a very slow moving, windup skill shot that can easily be dodged moving left or right. You wont get hit if you move. Same thing with her E. just stand behind minions and she can't get you. If you do get hit, then fight her off because that can easily prevent you from becoming a vessel.

2: Illaoi has terrible mana regen. She can't spam her abilities because of her small mana pool, and relies a lot on her tentacles to do most of her damage. If you see her OOM or low mana, then that is when you go in. If you go in when she's full on mana, then you're going to have a rough time.

3: She has no CC or gap closers. No, her W is not a gap closer. It gives her some distance, but trust me it is not reliable and still requires you to get very close to the enemy. Use this to your advantage if you're playing a ranged champion. Poke her and deny her farm. As long as you dodge her tentacles you'll force her out of lane since she has no way of getting close to you.

4: Positioning. Never, ever hug the walls against an Illaoi. That's asking for a bad time. If you have to fight her in lane, do so in the middle of the lane. Never against the walls unless you need to (Gnar, Poppy, etc). The further away from her tentacles she is, the more vulnerable she becomes.

5: If she ults... MOVE. Never stand in her ult. That is the dumbest thing anyone can do. She has no way of keeping you in there either. So just run out, wait it out, and then go nuts because by then she wont have much left to kill you with.

6: She's a lane bully, but terrible in team fights. Yes, she is extremely strong in lane. But this is only because of walls. Without walls, she can't make tentacles. Without those, she loses a lot of damage. She also has no utility outside of E (if she lands it), so her team fighting capabilities are very limited. So use the laning phase to farm up CS. She doesn't scale well so by the end of the laning phase you'll be able to duel her in team fights if you play smart. Reason she's also bad at teamfights is she requires specific positioning in order to get the most damage out of her ult. Why? Because she needs walls to make tentacles. If you fight her in mid lane she can't do much, but fight her in close quarters (like the jungle) and she will wreck your shit.

Trust me when I say she's really not that hard to go against. Once you learn what she does she's really easy to beat. Another way to beat her is to build item 3033 or item 3165 . Or even taking ignite can really hurt her health regen form her tentacles. But it's like I said, as long as you move and play smart, she is easy to beat.

Darkslayer851 votes

Her Q is a fatass skillshot and it's possibly the widest hitbox. Even if you go left or right, it's wide enough that you still get hit.

Desolas Arterius4 votes

It's also painfully slow with a long windup... So it's easy to dodge if you're orb walking or just moving erratically, like you generally should be.

If you're standing still and trying to move at the last second then yeah, you're going to get hit. But that's not Illaoi's fault.

Darkslayer851 votes

Good Illaoi's will Q when you're midauto to collect a cs, as you're standing still and it's easy to land a Q.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

And any good player will know to bait out her Q or use abilities if needed to safely farm from a distance.

What's your point? Any good player will know exactly how to respond to Illaoi or play her. It's the ones who aren't that good that struggle against her. She's essentially a noob killer, and if you don't know how she works you will be easily bullied out of lane.

Same can be said for literally every champion.

Darkslayer851 votes

Jeez there are so many salty illaoi mains looking for freelo like the Graves mains...

GULAG 4 U3 votes

no she's not

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

hmm one of the last times i played vs her in lane i played Nunu top and won game

is nunu broken ?

Rivuo2 votes

when i play jungle i just honestly dont gank illaoi. So much times i played Elise and landed a full combo, then E'd in the air before she ulted and she still devoured me and my teammate.

Other times i played xin and it was like i got punished for being in melee range.

Shes pretty busted in low elo - medium elo IMO.

KingPontus2 votes

Well give me some tips against her because i do run of the the way when she ults but it doesn't seem to matter all that much because one of them always hits me. Not to mention she can jump to you again and use her w to slam down on you.

OneMustFall2 votes

I wouldn't say she's overpowered per say but she's definitely one of the most toxic champions in the game. Laning against her requires far more interaction on your part than it does for her. Her E gives so much free damage that getting tethered one time can force you out of lane or outright kill you. And while her skillshots are fairly predictable, she can set it up so you are forced into getting your spirt pulled. Then if you try to fight her to prevent her from killing your spirit, she can then ult forcing you back and out of lane. It's 20 minutes of hell unless you get ganks and even then it can get real ugly if those ganks go awry.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

For me it's not her ult that bothers me it's her ( test of spirit) ability. A. You stand and fight her but now she has 2 targets to focus. B. you run away for 15-20 secs and give up 7-8 cs to kill her tentacles while she is smashing your tower.

Going tank against her is meh as she does %HP damage based off your total HP. You literally have to man up and nut up and go for DMG against her.

1wolfpack1 votes

I dont play top alot, however I did play it once this season in ranked after going fill. Garen vs Illoai, I never got the feeling she was broken. I won the lane and all was good.

but hey, thats me OP OP :):):):))

Astôlfo1 votes

not this shit again

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

man dont you know that is what the boards are about crying , complaining and bitching...

the circle jerk of tears...

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

WHY DIDN'T YOU DOOOOOOOOODGE!

ByersFam1 votes

The thing is her ult is not one shot...it 3-7 shots depending on how smart your opponnet is. lol

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