Tank Fiora is Bullshit

Catastrop·Feb 17, 2016·68 votes·4,212 views

Like what the fuck am I even looking at. She's so freaking tanky and she still has the capacity to chunk you for a quarter of your HP in without even trying. Like how do I even counter this? Focusing her just makes us prey for the rest of her team and ignoring her gets us all killed. Granted my last match was 4v5, but the even so, if Fiora wasn't on that team we'd have won. It's ridiculous when one champion literally zones the enemy base, we took out their lane turrets bar their top inhib turret. The inhibs were open but we just couldn't get them with this monstrosity guarding them. Seriously, someone shed some light here, how am I supposed to deal with her the next time I see her?

34 Comments

Virgin RayFeb 17, 201626 votes

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CatastropFeb 17, 20162 votes

I feel this post so much it hurts.

BoxpencilFeb 17, 20164 votes

I read this in sky's voice.

Serika ZeroFeb 17, 201614 votes

Rioter nr1: we got a problem with Fiora Rioter nr2: her passive is as useful as her escapes in lane? Rioter nr1: no no, that ultimate has no counterplay Rioter nr2: but it has counterplay, you can shield it and stuff. Rioter nr1: everyone complains that it has no counterplay Rioter nr2: hmmm . . . Rioter nr1: boss, I propose reworking Fiora Boss: why? Rioter nr1: if everyone complains that her 1 ability has no counterplay, Lets ..... make her entire kit have no counterplay? Rioter nr2: that way, players will be to confused to decide which ability has no counterplay Rioter nr1: that way they will keep arguing with each other, while me make more $ from LCS big plays Boss: perfect, go for it boys. I knew it was a great idea to hire you . . . Rioter nr1: how should we make fiora have as little counterplay as possible while giving her counterplay? Rioter nr2: we could give her true damage so she can build tank and do damage Rioter nr1: i had a dream where she was reflecting cc back to the enemy, I think that would've been a good idea Rioter nr2: lets do both <3

yoniameFeb 17, 20161 votes

its just her passive that's unreasonable, it either should hit %hp OR true damage, not both

TyaldanFeb 17, 20161 votes

not to mention (and i totally didnt know this till an enemy fiora told me) that her riposte slows your attack speed. So even if it doesnt stun you, if you get hit by it, you get your attack speed cut in fucking half. WHY for the love of god is that even on her kit. Thats not a fucking riposte. Thats a pile of steamy shit.

HayRossFeb 17, 201615 votes

The title is wrong. Tank Fiora isn't bullshit, Fiora in general is just bullshit

KingopantsFeb 17, 201612 votes

Lmao remember when they said this http://i.imgur.com/BefYh88.png [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Direct link

iainB85Feb 17, 20168 votes

What's funny is before rework everyone agreed her riposte ability was total lackluster (which it was) and needed to be more like it is today.

I guess nobody expected the insane healing AoE ultimate and %HP true damage abilities on top of it.

Classic Rito overcompensation at it's finest.

CatastropFeb 17, 20162 votes

And to think that literally within 1 day of her release, people were calling her garbage too. Only for like 4 days after for the whining to start about how bus she was. I can imagine their reactions when Bruiser Fiora became a thing.

Serika ZeroFeb 17, 20161 votes

Except Fiora mains, like me, people who put time into learning how to play Fiora. We liked her old W. Our only problem with Fiora was her lackluster passive from our pov, which healed less than 2 hp pots in end game scenarios, and less than 1 hp pot in ultra rare cases at the start of the game. So, it was basically useless.

And everyone that didn't play Fiora had an issue with the ultimate (which was her signature move). I want to see how many people would love Zed if his ult would be reworked into an AoE heal

Monsieur KastFeb 17, 20161 votes

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KoggyStyleFeb 18, 20161 votes

i started playing her then she got reworked... now i hate playing her.

StreetonFeb 17, 20167 votes

Guys at rito games when creating fiora:

Rito employee: "You know i think we should give another champion percent maxhp true damage, a heal, and no mana costs."

Rito employee #2: "thats soo troll man"

Rito employee: "Same"

GoldDragsOnFeb 17, 20167 votes

So broken its not even funny. Like wtf is wrong with riot? too much money? they just wanna troll players now? and that xin buff? my lord riot is a bunch of ****** kids who troll their players.

bobsenbobFeb 17, 20165 votes

please, dont call her tank fiora, she does no damage building raw tank, it's bruiser fiora, tank and bruiser are 2 very different things, it's like saying tank darius or tank yi, its juggernaut/bruiser

doombotMECHAFeb 18, 20161 votes

Fiora, the Grand Juggernaught

bobsenbobFeb 18, 20161 votes

Fiora, the Grand Tank...lol

BoxpencilFeb 17, 20164 votes

Undying grasp fiora hurts so bad. I mean, you're trying to chunk her but then she heals it all back up again with 1 Q, while dealing more damage than you did with max hp true damage.

SaiannaFeb 17, 20164 votes

Riot: It's very easy to fight Fiora.

Riot: First you have to pick some "duelist" bullshit champion that gets free damage out of ass. Preferably Jax or Yi.

Riot: Then you build them EVEN TANKIER than Fiora

Riot: If that doesn't help, we've provided some overtuned items that work great with "duelist" bullshit theme

Riot: Oh yea, after our dumb idea of changing Kog'Maws attack speed from Q to W, we have decided to nerf him, cause we don't care anymore.

Riot: Have fun!

Uncle BlitzcrankFeb 17, 20164 votes

Played against a Tank Fiora yesterday and by end-game I was literally screaming at how bullshit it was. I have 400 armor and 5K health and tank Cho and I was getting RIPPED apart

Serika ZeroFeb 18, 20161 votes

well true damage means your armor doesn't count %max hp damage means your hp doesn't count and that's why you were getting "ripped"

Wind StormFeb 17, 20163 votes

She's too good at everything in general. She can split all game and is incredibly hard to 1v1 or she can group and has a massive aoe heal.Her Q/passive isn't exactly hard to proc either.All you have to do is kinda aim in the direction of the vital and press Q.Her W is actually fine as it has a long cool down and does provide counter play but can also be avoided.The E damage is fine but the slow is kind of random considering she already gets MS from her passive.Her ult heal is too easy to proc in a teamfight.All she has to do is land one vital and the team can kill the target.She can ult the support,the rest of the team deletes the support and now the fight is almost impossible to lose considering you're getting an aoe heal for the next 5 seconds. If the passive took longer to come up after it gets proc'ed,if she had to either hit all 4 vitals or get the kill(not an assist) on someone she ulted in order to get the heal,she would be a lot easier to deal with while maintaining the core strengths of her kit

PePsiLemoNNFeb 17, 20162 votes

When i first looked at this thread it had 24 upvotes and 7 downvotes = 24/7 = 24/7 threads about fiora being broken , coincidence ?

P.s : Now 25 with mine :c

Stained SpearFeb 18, 20161 votes

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When i first looked at this thread it had 24 upvotes and 7 downvotes = 24/7 = 24/7 threads about fiora being broken , coincidence ?

P.s : Now 25 with mine :c

how do u see downvotes?

AltricadFeb 17, 20162 votes

Bruiser fiora doesn't have the straight dps/ insane scalings of AD fiora that lets her deal the required true damage For example, a Fiora that builds item 3748 item 3053 item 3111 item 3025 item 3156 item 3102 will lose 10/10 to a Darius that builds item 3071 item 3143

or to a Poppy with item 3742 item 3025 item 3047 item 3102 item 3068 item 3748

And that's because, with fiora's build she only gets 7.5% max hp true damage per vital, requiring her to engage in extended trades with THE Darius , and once darius gets noxian might it's gg for fiora. Darius heals a LOT whenever he hits his axe

Poppy also can beat tank fiora because she deals max %hp damage, which scales with more hp that fiora builds. and poppy's damage while building tank is absurd on it's own. Plus, the above fiora build has very little lifesteal , so her trading won't be favorable to her

However, if Fiora builds item 3072 item 3074 item 3071 item 3156 item 3158 item 3110

you need to counter her with champions that have VERY high damage and can kill her before they get killed

Think on the levels of MasterYi Graves Tryndamere Jax Gangplank Yasuo Vayne

Reason being, all of these champions can easily incorporate a item 3139 in their builds and smash fiora in before she gets off more than a vital if she dancing around waiting for her passive vitals

And if you just wanna beat her in lane, here are a few that can look to kill her and snowball Graves Quinn Kennen Trundle MonkeyKing Olaf Olaf Olaf Olaf Olaf

I'm mentioning Olaf, because I've watched streams of Smeb, Marin and even Faker play fiora into Olaf. Here's a hint: they STRUGGLED

Fiora for all her bravado has an "gimmick" dependent kit. Her riposte does nothing if the enemy doesn't have cc, her Q has an average base damage. And her bladework doesn't help if the enemy wants to be on your face. And her ult can be cleansed.

Protip: Pure damage fks her up. Not the damage of a bruiser, but the crazy damage from other Carries.

TLDR: Fight her with a Full damage carry if she's squishy, or with a juggernaut if she's going bruiser.

P.S Quite funnily, she has no steroids aside from her true damage passive, and you take that away she becomes crap tier compared to other carries

CatastropFeb 17, 20162 votes

I might try Olaf, because I just care about lane phase, after that I have my team. Thanks for the info.

Serika ZeroFeb 18, 20161 votes

your build is wrong. Replace the Ice Born Gauntlet with Black Cleaver. Also, she will CRUSH Darius because Darius has no QSS. Also, replace Banshee with some Armor item. Also replace Mercury Boots with Boots of Swiftness.

That's how you build tank Fiora. item 3009 item 3748 item 3071 item 3053 item 3156 and a random AD item like item 3742 or item 3143 or item 3075 The build has: tankyness, life steal, attack speed, huge dmg based on hp, armor shred and movement speed bonus.

NsEternalFeb 17, 20161 votes

ill give you 1 way to stop a fiora. ready for it...... well here he is Garen . i have never lost a game to a fiora as garen ( i usually only play 3v3 ranked where the average game im matched against diamond + ) and he 100% counters her in almost everyway shape and form. you just bait out the repostae and then kill her.