Squishies who build no resistances whatsoever, yet still complain

Catastrop··77 votes·4,434 views

It baffles me how so much people can even have the audacity to complain about a late game one-shot either from an assassin/burst mage when they had no resistances to speak of. Like mages and assassins themselves are expected to build a bit tanky to survive against each other, how can you possibly think you're somehow an exception to this this? And this is like come strange community mind set because I once saw a thread that was upvoted to hell about Anivia's "unfair damage" on an Ashe. I looked at her stats, she had 51 MR, at late game. Yeah, unfair my ass, there was even someone in the comments who was like "Aum, there was like, an aegis there." Oh boy, that +15 MR on a base 36 MR is definitely going to save me from the fed late game mage. Seriously, it's like people expect to just build full glass and not be just that, glass. Maybe if you took the time to build appropriately and respect and enemy's damage, you wouldn't find yourself constantly dying in a virtual fire like some pleb.

EDIT: Now just for clarification, while I did say resistances, I still mean defensive items in general. It could pseudo resistance like item 3812 or just a whatever offensive stat+HP item like item 3027.

198 Comments

JayHog199227 votes

It's like top laners complaining about me doing too much damages when I play Teemo when first item you should be getting is item 3211, item 3155 or item 1057 to counter me.

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

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It's like top laners complaining about me doing too much damages when I play Teemo when first item you should be getting is item 3211, item 3155 or item 1057 to counter me.

People still complain about Teemo?

Catastrop11 votes

Do top laners ever stop complaining about Teemo XD? Real talk though, I've found item 3211 can be pretty much insta win against a lot magic dealers top lane.

Ralanr11 votes

The only downside is it being 1200g. I liked it better as 1100g.

But that'd make magic top not able to work.

Adriqnohee4 votes

I found Gnar to be a worse version of Teemo, so now I complain about him.

Mira Arya Enthe11 votes

I know right? It's almost like...

item 3026 item 3512 item 3102 item 3001 item 3105 item 3060 item 3742 item 3110 item 3022 item 3155 item 3025 item 3190 item 3156 item 3139 item 3111 item 3222 item 3056 item 3143 item 3040 item 3068 item 3065 item 3075 item 3157 item 3091

...are not items!

Catastrop3 votes

Ugh yes, so much yes. It's gotten to the point where my opinion on an ADC player is entirely decided on how much they value item 3139/item 3026. Don't even get me started on mage players who don't build a item 3001/item 3157 item if they're not doing too well against an opposing burst mage/assassin.

Ralanr4 votes

What mage doesn't build Abyssal or hourglass? At least one should be in every build.

Catastrop1 votes

You'd be surprised, I play a lot of Katarina Leblanc and very rarely do I see someone opt into a defensive approach, instead they stick standard buildpaths and then cry in /all when I one-shot them.

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

Once had to play against a team with three assassins as Lux (one of them being Zed mid)

Final Build: item 3158 item 3027 item 3157 item 3089 item 3135 item 3026

Considering how many times I barely escaped alive, I believe they despised me.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Honestly, I rarely buy them unless a specific match-up requires it. If I do get one of them, I generally combine it with Rod of Ages and Ionian Boots for mana sustain and to cap my CDR (since I take 20% Scaling CDR in runes).

Then again, I also mostly play Lux in the mid-lane (with Exhaust or Barrier) and she is safe enough to get away with it.

rtbf7610927115 votes

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I know right? It's almost like...

item 3026 item 3512 item 3102 item 3001 item 3105 item 3060 item 3742 item 3110 item 3022 item 3155 item 3025 item 3190 item 3156 item 3139 item 3111 item 3222 item 3056 item 3143 item 3040 item 3068 item 3065 item 3075 item 3157 item 3091

...are not items!

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Catastrop11 votes

Support Ashe bruh.

10Tickler5 votes

item 3071 item 3153 item 3151 item 3156 item 3036 item 3135 item 3001 item 3147 item 3033 item 3142 item 3020 item 3134

Also, Damage outscales Defense, harder than it should, because morello doesn't want a boring game

Mira Arya Enthe3 votes

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item 3071 item 3153 item 3151 item 3156 item 3036 item 3135 item 3001 item 3147 item 3033 item 3142 item 3020 item 3134

Also, Damage outscales Defense, harder than it should, because morello doesn't want a boring game

Not harder than it should, it is fine. Only problem is some of the pen and slow items.

PB4UAME1 votes

I disagree, its much harder of an outscaling than we used to see-- primarily due to their being only 2 sub-par keystones that are defensive, and the resolve tree is shit compared to previous season's defensive trees.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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I disagree, its much harder of an outscaling than we used to see-- primarily due to their being only 2 sub-par keystones that are defensive, and the resolve tree is shit compared to previous season's defensive trees.

I'm talking items not masteries.

Provengreil2 votes

That mastery deficiency has a multiplicative effect on the gap between defensive and offensive itemization, particularly because a lot of the offense masteries are % while defensive ones are flat, and low values to boot. Tanks have pretty much worse masteries, worse items, and, so often, odd build paths as you have to dynamically switch between which defensive stat to prioritize. Honestly, any tank that legitimately gets ahead in his own proper skill bracket deserves a good word from his team right now.

Spoofghoul9 votes

im actually surprised with adc's not just taking item 3022 as their defensive item with some scaling def runes

many of them already pack item 3085

so the synergy is there

better kite = less damage and if thats not enough 700 hp ought to do

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

I love that combination. It is especially annoying on Jinx since it lets her easily chase down chain kills for her passive.

Ralanr7 votes

Tanks will steamroll you if you don't have at least one resistance item (ok not steamroll, but they'll hurt).

Seriously, buy some resistance people. At some point you have enough damage.

Penns4 votes

Fizz I never have enough damage

It Hertz When IP14 votes

{quoted} At some point you have enough damage.

Veigar laughs in Evil

Ralanr9 votes

Note: A few small exceptions may apply.

It Hertz When IP8 votes

Veigar IS THAT A SHORT JOKE?

Leon41671 votes

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Veigar laughs in Evil

Laughs in Evil? Is there a difference between normal evil laughter and laughing in evil. It's like when you have subtitles on and the Hispanic guy stares at the main character and then the sub reads, "Stares in Spanish." Lmao.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

Normal evil laughter, anyone can do. But to Laugh in Evil.... it requires a true depravity of the soul to tint the very underlying meaning to the laugh, practically corrupting the very air exhaled during the laugh.

Leon41671 votes

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Normal evil laughter, anyone can do. But to Laugh in Evil.... it requires a true depravity of the soul to tint the very underlying meaning to the laugh, practically corrupting the very air exhaled during the laugh.

Whoa...that was deep and now I'm creeped out lol. I feel as if my soul just got a little more corrupted.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

You're welcome. ^-^

Brain Errör 4046 votes

No, it pisses me off when I BUILD tank and health shit and still get 1 shot by a god damn fizz.

When I build tanky on squishies and still get 1 shotted, it makes me wonder why I'm trying in the first place. Maybe if it FELT like building tank items was actually working, I wouldn't bother going full AD and only grabbing a guardian angel as my only defensive item.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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No, it pisses me off when I BUILD tank and health shit and still get 1 shot by a god damn fizz.

When I build tanky on squishies and still get 1 shotted, it makes me wonder why I'm trying in the first place. Maybe if it FELT like building tank items was actually working, I wouldn't bother going full AD and only grabbing a guardian angel as my only defensive item.

ADCs should always have GA. Always. As either a 3rd-4rth-5th-6th item depending on who the enemy team is. If there is an enemy fed assassin like Zed or Talon, sometimes I get it right after IE and Zeal.

Rivuo4 votes

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ADCs should always have GA. Always. As either a 3rd-4rth-5th-6th item depending on who the enemy team is. If there is an enemy fed assassin like Zed or Talon, sometimes I get it right after IE and Zeal.

You should never get a GA unless you're guarenteed to die.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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You should never get a GA unless you're guarenteed to die.

Yes, you should. On an ADC it is a great item. Both defenses make you more resistant to magic damage yes, but also physical damage which is minions, turrets, basic attacks, objectives, jungle camps, ADCs, AD assassins, AD bruisers, AD tanks. Having that hybrid defense alone is worth it. The auto resurrection is just an amazing 5 minute CD. Unless they have more CC and less burst, then you should get item 3139

Rivuo1 votes

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Yes, you should. On an ADC it is a great item. Both defenses make you more resistant to magic damage yes, but also physical damage which is minions, turrets, basic attacks, objectives, jungle camps, ADCs, AD assassins, AD bruisers, AD tanks. Having that hybrid defense alone is worth it. The auto resurrection is just an amazing 5 minute CD. Unless they have more CC and less burst, then you should get item 3139

if your build is item 3087 item 3031 item 3006 item 3036 item 3026

Then your 6th item wont let you reach over 50% crit rate or have any lifesteal.

Thats why GA is generally bad.

notice me Sin pi5 votes

Twitch MissFortune Lucian Jhin item 3142 item 3147 item 3071 item 3156

what's crit rate?

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

GA is a fantastic item for making people not want to focus you in fights (especially when you are fed).

Some people do not like using their cooldowns and damage on a target who will just revive afterwards even if it is the smart idea.

SanKakU4 votes

No, I agree with you. The always is too much. If you think it's always, you're playing ADC wrong.

TequilaZombie1 votes

item 3053 item 3156

Unless said Fizz is fed, you should survive his burst now.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I hope you mean to only buy one of those since the passives no longer stack.

TequilaZombie2 votes

Errmm... Yes... Sure! hides away last games in which I bought both

Catastrop2 votes

You know, I've yet to see this actually happen in game, Tanks pretty much win games in my experience.

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

Ashe Build resists? WTF are you smoking? HAVE YOU SEEN MY BUILD!? item 3812 item 3072 item 3046 item 3071 item 3153 item 3006 Nami

morris12 votes

So you buy Nami for wards? Something something slavery.

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

No, I build her to carry all my swords. It's her privilege to to buy all the wards as well.

Ulriah3 votes

You forgot to mention how they will then start to complain that the enemy plays a ''nub champ with no counterplay''.

rtbf2256182412 votes

While i agree with this logic, Anivia was complained about cuz she has 3 instantaneous point and click abilities which empower each other and regardless of the champions, at this meta, late game resistances don't mean shit on Adcs and Mid laners cuz they have to make mostly damage anyway.

Catastrop2 votes

Yes late game the actual resistances on anyone but a tank/fighter might have little meaning, but the passive/active effects you get from building defensive items are what you really want at that point.

Only Play Darius2 votes

Well that's the intended weakness of ADCs, and I would prefer they continue to not build any defenses outside of GA. It wouldn't be fair late game for ADC's to have all the range, siege, DPS, and still survive if you get on them.

Catastrop2 votes

Oh I don't want that either, but when you see these countless cry threads about damage that Riot continuously panders to, it gets pretty frustrating when you know that these people despite the countless defensive options never even give them a thought.

Saianna2 votes

Simple: ADCs got spoiled.

After all almost all 5 seasons we had Riot busy buffing ADCs and nerfing whoever was close to taking their spotlight...

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