Getting ranked in BV with 6W 4L and multiple S ranks on wins

Coran·Dec 16, 2016·2 votes·1,134 views

So how the freak does this make any sense at all. I'm so sick of the useless ranking system. It makes me not want to ever play ranked. Win more than half the time and get shafted to the very lowest of ranks. And with some DAMN GOOD GAMES. Last 10 Games: L - MF 4/12/2 - Yep, last was the worst game. (got booted from jg twice.... mother fers) W - MF 4/3/6 - meh W - Yi 17/4/3 - 5.0 KDA W - Yi 23/6/5 - 4.6 KDA L - Yi 17/11/5 - 2.0 KDA L - MF 5/8/1 - Not terrible for a loss W - Yi 11/11/10 - Not the best win W - Yi 29/9/5 - 3.7 KDA L - Yi 11/13/9 - Not terrible for a loss either W - Yi 9/7/4 - Not the best win

What I don't understand is getting 3 S ranks and an A and then getting placed at the bottom of the barrel. It really tells me that the ranked system is worthless. It doesn't care about whether you perform well or not. It just looks at where you were and keeps you in the same place. A CASTE SYSTEM NEVER WORKS RIOT! I would rather play 30 games to rank each season and really get a hard reset instead of pandering to where people were before. Base the new ranks JUST OFF OF THE PLACEMENT GAMES. Anyone getting S ranks and winning more than 50% of the time should be ranked above bronze. It's just a bunch of shit.

17 Comments

RandomoniumDec 16, 20162 votes

I climbed out of bronze in season 5. Then in season 6 I got put back in bronze after my placements. I climbed out of bronze again and got Gold. And I really, really, really suck at this game. There is no caste system. There is no conspiracy. If I can do it anyone can.

Secondly, your score does not affect your placements. Your score does not affect your MMR. Your score does not affect you LP gain/loss. All getting an S does is give you a chest and give you more champion mastery points. Besides that its useless.

Third, even if you go 10-0 in your placements you will typically be placed in a lower division than when you ended the last season. The reason for this is that the HIGHEST division you can be placed in at the beginning of the season is platinum. That means that all the diamond, master, and challenger players get placed in plat. Where do you think that forces all the plat players to go? It forces them to get bumped down to gold (and sometimes silver.) Likewise gold players get bumped down to silver (and bronze) and silver players usually get bumped down to bronze as well. To think that you would actually go up in ranking after your placements is ludicrous when EVERYONE gets demoted. You honestly should be happy. You probably only lost like 100-200 LP worth of progress due to the reset. There are some higher ranked players who lose 1,000 LP or more (and most players lose 500 LP.)

Please stop bitching about this. I promise you that its possible to get out of bronze. If I can do it for 2 seasons straight then so can you (I can't count this season because I was placed into silver this season.)

CoranDec 16, 20161 votes

You are right. I am just pissed because I tried really hard to get out of bronze but I don't have time to play 200+ games in one season. I'm a lot more chill about it now.

RandomoniumDec 16, 20161 votes

See but that makes no sense. In order to climb it does take 200+ games. The only way you'd climb with less games than that is if you had an insane win rate and you were way, WAY better than your rank. There's a lot of people who play over 1,000 ranked games in a season. Hell, there was a popular Youtuber (Diamond level) who had a bronze 5 account and it took him nearly 300 games to grind that account to Diamond (and he had like a 66% win rate.) You being pissed off about not being able to climb is like someone being pissed off that they can't get in shape when they only go to the gym once a week. If you don't put in the time then its pointless to get frustrated when you can't reap the benefits. You're just setting yourself up for failure and frustration because your goals aren't realistic.

I'm not saying you HAVE to climb or that you HAVE to be good at this game. Plenty of people have way more important things to do with their life than play video games. If that's you then accept it. I barely played video games for 3 years because I was too busy (seasons 2 through 4.) If you don't have the time then just play casual and focus on having fun and trying to improve. No one cares what rank you are except you (unless you're challenger.)

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

lol then explain all the people who get out of bronze and all the people who have multiple plat or higher accounts ?

CoranDec 16, 20161 votes

Getting out is difficult af. No one gets out of bronze by ranking out during "placement" matches in a new season if they were there before. Placement matches mean jack squat. And you know what BV means. 1 in 10 players doesn't have a clue what they are doing or are complete blowhards. It also means that I have to play 50+ excellent games to get to SILVER. It is entirely screwy.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

i dunno the last time i did placement games ( season 5 ) i got silver out of placements

CoranDec 16, 20161 votes

What rank were you in Season 4?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

bronze

CoranDec 16, 20161 votes

I'm curious to know what your placement games looked like. But I think they changed their mentality this season.

JavelinJoeDec 16, 20161 votes

Well they did alter it a bit back a few seasons ago, but it all depends mostly on your MMR in the end. So find a reliable site to use that can give you an estimate maybe. I tend to use op.gg for my estimates.

Purple DeathDec 16, 20161 votes

What are you trying to accomplish by this post?

CoranDec 16, 20161 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/vw1crQQw-losing-quickly-all-interest-in-ranked Trying to point out there is a problem with Riot's mentality. Plus I'm venting b/c this pissed me off.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

you can be as mad as you want but i looked at your games and most of them are bad ... regardless of win or loss record

and your mmr is of bronze 5... and you barely won games vs other bronze 5 and 4 players and unranked players

your runes arent ideal. your masteries need to be tweeked

JavelinJoeDec 16, 20161 votes

Whats your overall cs/minute like? How many towers did you help take? How many baron / dragons did you get/ help get? As a bot/jg main (at least that is what you seem to be) you should have an active role in all of these areas. Not to mention that in many of those games you had 10+ deaths. That is a huge negative. You were bronze last season and this system works on a soft reset, where it DOES consider your previous skill and rank when deciding your rank. You only got bronze 4 last season, and the reset usually lowers everyone's starting rank by some (I was placed S4 this season when I finished G5 last season). Also, you need to help the team out, sure you got tons of kills, but was it off of your team doing most of the damage and you just last hitting for the kill steal? Out of all your games, the lowest deaths you got was 3, and that was on a "meh" game according to you.

Basically my suggestions would be to not die as much. Start taking heal as the ADC since ignite is more for solo laners and situationally the support and jungler. Having heal as the ADC really saves both you and your support from bad situations and can be used better than ignite and more often. You are the ADC, you have the damage, and you are not burst reliant like most solo laners who take ignite for that reason.

My other suggestion is to actually rethink your builds. Your Yi build should have some lifesteal (usually from item 3153 ). It will help you out a lot since you can really make use of the passive on-hit. And your MF build should start item 3508 not item 3072 . You need the crit and the cdr/mana sustain way more than the lifesteal at early levels. is not a bad item, but it should be your 4-5 item not your first. I would get item 3087 (boots are your choice but usually either item 3158 item 3009 or item 3006 ), then either or item 3031 or item 3036 / item 3033 depending on the situation the game is currently in. If you are ahead, grab BT or IE, if they have a lot of armor or healing/health, grab an armor pen item.

An good safe MF example build would be item 3508 item 3087 item 3006 item 3031 item 3072 item 3033 . Or look here for other example builds.

CoranDec 16, 20161 votes

Thanks for taking the time to consider my post and look into what I am actually building. I will try to answer some of your questions just to put this into perspective. I will note that none of those things affect ranking up once placements are done. Only winning affects rank. You obviously know that so I am stating the obvious but it does matter. As far as CS per min - Games vary between 5-10. (Low ends are actually adc. I really hate playing adc but its the role that I can affect the game the most after jg for my style of play.) I do a really good job at towers. Probably 4-5 per game average. I probably help the team get 2 drags average per game. Some yi games, especially the ones I did well, I pulled every dragon. I do usually let the team engage and then I flank in the back row. It helps to win team fights and turn lanes. I will switch on the MF build but you have to try the Yi build I do. It is so solid and I really do melt anyone I cross every game. It ends with 300+ damage, 100% crit and static shiv + alpha strike really leave the enemy no where to run.

I certainly could work on dying less. Especially as Yi. I tend to dive in to gank lanes a little too early or trade a double kill for my own death. I think in terms of chess (whoever gains the 3 point lead wins 90% of the time). But that may be the wrong attitude.

Thanks again for the feedback.

JavelinJoeDec 16, 20161 votes

Maybe try getting a item 3814 as well on Yi. It can help with your dives since you block the first ability (often in Yi's case that ability is some form of hard CC). And while 100% is great, I would argue that only having 70-80% crit is just fine if you walk away from the fight more often.

Also, ADC and JG are probably the 2 most opposite roles in the game. They tend to have very different mechanics and play styles which usually tend to not be as compatible as other pairs are. I would recommend you change to either TOP or SUPPORT depending on your champion preference. TOP if more aggressive champions like Yi, VI, and Wukong are your style, and SUPPORT if more utility based champions like Amumu, Sejuani, and Ivern are your style. (I find that Sejuani is a very good alternative to Leona if you go SUPPORT since they have close to the save CC and tankyness). Nautilus can go either TOP or SUPPORT if you play him.

I for one, never play Jungle if I can help it, because it is difficult for me to make the switch in play style being an ADC/SUPPORT main (I main ADC but because of SUPPORT being broken in the role selection I usually get placed as the SUPPORT). So maybe the same applies to you in reverse?

StephenizgodDec 16, 20161 votes

The only thing that matters when placing you is Winning or Losing, not how well you did or how bad your teammates were. Those certainly have impacts on whether you win or lose, but it is completely separate from being placed.

Please remember that not only were you Bronze last season, but you are also facing other Bronze players. Just because you do "good" against Bronze players doesn't mean you are doing "good" as a player in general. Put yourself against Silver players and your scores and W/L ratio may have been worse in which case you would have gotten Bronze anyways.

If you truly believe you are better than your Rank, you will certainly climb out of Bronze. If not, then perhaps its not Riot's Ranked system that is the problem.