If I roll a true tank, I expect to give up damage in exchange for durability. Unfortunately True Tanks only really outclass the other archetypes in tankyness late game, when everyone else has a damage spike
Edit: By true tank I reference Vanguards and Wardens
Ralanr1 votesLack of in combat sustain imo.
SquashCannon1 votesLack of in combat sustain imo.
And sometimes mediocre base stats. Juggernauts end up being surprisingly tanky without items because their base stats are usually beefed up to the max. Its also why many of them have very decent level 1 all ins and anti all ins.
Big Lincoln1 voteswho constitutes a "true tank" in this argument?
Hexs Fortune1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UwE3VAy3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-14T13:29:36.120+0000)
who constitutes a "true tank" in this argument?
Vanguards and Wardens
Big Lincoln2 votessuch as???
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only vanguard that isn't innately tanky b/c no shield or DR mechanic that comes to mind is sejuani
Ralanr1 votesZac doesn't have a shield or damage reduction.
MaeDoSan1 votesZac is late game because he has a good engage and causes massive disruptions in fights
Ralanr1 votesAnd what does that have to do with Big Lincoln's point?
No tank can really function late game if the ADC has built the correct items.
MaeDoSan1 votestanks are ultility late game and the blobs are sustain for him and he has high base damages and can take down the adc almost alone if they are caught out of position
Ralanr1 votesSo you're arguing that Zac isn't squishier than full build fighters late game?
MaeDoSan1 votesZac does't need to be more tankier because he is more disruptive that is just his design . Compare a maokai engage and a zac engage and compare who is tankier
Ralanr1 votesI'm not arguing he needs to be.
Big Lincoln1 voteshe has sustain though
zac has been one of the hardest tanks to kill in my experience
Ralanr1 votesYeah, he just doesn't have a shield or damage reduction mechanic. Just sustain.