Q1. Does it take up an inventory slot? Q2. Is there a cooldown between charges? Q3. If I kill a minion with this, do I still get full EXP and gold?
There are various scenarios where these 3 questions become important, which is why I feel they need asked.
BobaFlautist5 votesHere we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ4gOX2slIU&feature=youtu.be&t=1m38s
Wish I had seen that channel sooner.
EkyonKun3 votesBeen on the PBE. Let me explain things: 1 - Yes. It goes into your inventory with 6 charges. You CAN sell these for 0 gold if you decide you don't want them later. Though, I discourage this. 2 - It starts on a long cooldown (155 seconds), and after this, each use puts it on a 10 second cooldown. 3 - Yes. Full exp and gold assuming it died to your minion dematerializer. IF someone else kills it before the brief animation finished (it's about 1 second long) you lose a charge, but do not get the gold for it. However, you DO keep the bonus damage to that minion like always.
BONUS TIME
It can instantly kill a super minion. If you NEED to use it on a super minion while still having minion dematerializers, you either are in a completely lost game or else just messed up badly. BUT it IS an option. (I only found this out by accidentally taking it in Doom Bots where you naturally lose an inhibitor pretty early)
Rathar Dashing1 votesWell, if you decide you just want to use one on a cannon minion for the damage boost, you can start saving them if you're losing lane. That way you can guard base while someone split pushes, which could give you an edge.
Also, about selling things: Can you sell the other items you get from runes? I.E. the free boots, the biscuits, the stopwatch (both forms) and kleptomancy drops? If so, how much do they sell for?
EkyonKun1 votesIf you can't purchase it in the store itself, the item sells for 0g, but you CAN sell the items if you choose to.
The stopwatch is kind of a special case. You mentioned the two forms of stopwatch. You probably are referring to the regular and broken form. However, there's actually a third. The initial item you get is an unusable stopwatch that has a charge time of, I believe 6 minutes. I've unofficially named it the "Winding Stopwatch" but it DOES have a unique name. I just forgot it. After that, it becomes the regular stopwatch.
Anyway, the "Winding" Stopwatch and Broken Stopwatch sell for 0g, but the "normal" Stopwatch sells for 420g like a normal item. However, just taking Perfect Timing seems to increase Zhonya's (And possibly GA's & Stoneplate's) cost by 300g. Zhonya's for me went from 2900 to 3200, even though without taking Perfect Timing, the cost was at its normal 2900g. WITH the regular Stopwatch gained from Perfect Timing, the cost is decreased to 2600. Having the Broken Stopwatch permanently increases the regular cost by that same 300g. So I highly discourage selling the regular stopwatch unless you're planning on just using it for an extra 420g.
Actually, now that I think about it, that may be worthwhile. I never actually tried it, but that's just about an extra amplifying tome or ruby crystal on your first back. That isn't bad at all, but the PBE with runes reforged is closed, so we'll have to see if that's stayed by the time it rolls around next patch.
TLDR: You can sell pretty much anything gained from runes/masteries, but only the regular Stopwatch seems to sell for any gold. 420 gold to be specific. Everything else is 0g.
Rathar Dashing1 votesI was referring to the commencing stopwatch as well as the usuable stopwatch, both gained from runes.
So if I'm getting this right, you can sell you magic boots, biscuits, unusable stopwatches etc. for 0 gold, but if, say, you got an item like a Health Potion or an Elixer of Sorcery, then you could sell those to make more gold?
EkyonKun1 votesCOMMENCING STOPWATCH, THAT'S IT. Well, too late. It is now Winding Stopwatch in my head now.
Anyway, yeah, 0g for anything not found in the store itself. I assume because, quite obviously, Riot hasn't given them any actual value. In terms of health potions, I assume you'd be able to sell them back for 35 gold, but for the elixirs...I'm pretty sure those are "Travel Sized" and don't act quite the same as regular store-bought elixirs. As such, I assume they'd sell for 0g as well. Just my best guess. I wasn't actually in the PBE long enough to thoroughly test everything before they closed off Runes Reforged.
Shuyin1782 votesExtra Bonus Question: Does this proct Targon's?
EkyonKun1 votesMost likely. Targon's seems to only care that you last hit the minion near an ally champion. The only part that's unique to melee is its execution threshold. So, it wouldn't make sense for this to be any exception. I was planning on testing that on the PBE actually, but we can all guess why I can't at this point.
Warlord Rhinark2 votesA lot of runes that Riot has announced lack a lot of vital information.
SB Arneeman1 votesI think it's mostly because they're not finished yet, Riot is still changing numbers and effects.
Xikini1 votesI mean, there is a practice tool available to you. Do the new runes not work in there?
Shuyin1782 votesI don't have a PBE account, so I can't test this stuff yet. Otherwise I wouldn't be asking on here. lol
CleverCactus1 votesNot right now they don't. They are disabled until Tuesday.
Fawksea1 votesyes to everything
Arakadia1 votesDoes it work on champion minions like Malz W?
Cause afaik there aren't 6 different types of minions.
Shuyin1781 votesThose are counted as pets so I doubt it.
Arakadia1 votesThen why do you need 6 of these?
Shuyin1781 votesI can see this rune being used by champions in a bad matchup lane so they can farm. And by split pushers to help with their damage output against waves.
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votesI can see this rune being used by champions in a bad matchup lane so they can farm. And by split pushers to help with their damage output against waves.
that would only be +6 cs because you won't get any more
Shuyin1781 votesThat 6 CS could be 6 cannon minions you use to get an important item for your champion.
There are a lot of possibilities with this rune I feel, just godda wait until pre-season before we give it a shot.
PopcornBunni1 votesThen why do you need 6 of these?
Hitting the same type of minion with it stacks the bonus damage (with diminishing returns)
Soraka is SO HOT1 votesIt does take up an inventory slot.
I thought the cd was 90 sec, but I have only acquired them with the Kleptomancy rune, so not sure on this.
Full XP and gold for the minion kill.
Also, it does seem to be a decent increase in damage to the minion you target.
Source: PBE experiences.
Athenes Lulu1 votes
VoidStaresBack2 votesIt works on all minions except (I think, I haven't tried) supers. Not just on cannons.
Shuyin1781 votesNot sure why you're being downvoted, your information is pretty much accurate. It can be used on all minions (Supers need tested because I don't know about that)
squido1 votesYes to all questions
