Finally, someone gets it!

Zacster··30 votes·3,634 views

My friends always tell me why do you only main one champ or stuff like doesn't that become boring etc. Well this video answers that question thoroughly. To everyone who mains only one champ or wants to, you should definitely watch this.

My mastery:

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72 Comments

Lost R34 votes

There is an extreme false equivalency comparing champions to college majors. VERY EXTREME.

How many things will people do in their lifetime, between learning how to talk, read, drive, cook, work at various jobs, count, do math from simple arithmetic to calculus, play video games of various genres, remember people, places, things, identify sights, sounds, smells and textures, and so on? The way you describe it, you act like trying to learn ONE champion is like trying to learn the quantum mechanics of the universe, and that you have to neckbeard yourself to death to even get marginally good at one.

That isn't how it works. The human brain is capable of near infinity, but people squander it on paranoia, fear, blood, brussels sprouts, and self-contradictory bullshit, not to mention that we all have different starting lines. Some people are born geniuses, others will struggle to count to four until their dying days. Hell, in America a lot of teens don't even graduate high school.

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I don't neckbeard myself over this game, and I have become more proficient with more champions than most players ever will, especially by your standards, AND I play other video games, AND I write, AND draw, AND currently learning another language, AND working on game design, AND keeping up with American politics, AND managing a tabletop game on the weekends! And when Kled comes out, I'll pick him up when I have the opportunity, figure him out and decide what place he has in my worldview.

I could exclusive Braum or Lulu until the heat death of the universe, but I probably won't learn anything new that my current crusade to Mastery 5 and beyond didn't teach me already. You don't just bumblefuck your way to the Mastery level (240+, as of now) I am at right now. I certainly won't learn anything new if I end up playing against the same ten champions, basically falling back on the same tactics and not learning how to deal with new menaces.

Want to know the best part? I didn't really play Lulu for half a year while I was building my Mastery with other champions. Then when Masteries 6 and 7 came out I went back to her just briefly enough to go on a warpath and get her to Mastery 7 in less than a few days, DURING MY FUCKING SPARE TIME.

THAT is the trap that everyone, including the professionals themselves, have fallen into. Everyone learns at different paces, and people have bought into the idea that the only way you can get even marginally proficient at anything is to go full neckbeard and exclude and basically dump stat literally everything else in your life in favor of that one thing. That isn't how it works. League is not motherfucking quantum physics!

People aren't advancing not because they aren't focusing hard enough on that one thing. It's because they aren't focusing on enough things, and this overspecialization has spread out from entire divisions to entire populations. Most games I play, you have nothing but ADC and assassin mains who will collectively abandon warding, claiming objectives, pushing and defending for teamfights and pentakills, even when they have absolutely no right to try and focus on those things, excluding even the game itself for some illusory zenith of mastery that people have mistaken for reality.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

well put post, good read. +1

Elikain2 votes

If you're advancing in League miles in front of other people and in life, i seriously doubt that staying in Silver for 3 straight seasons is because you feel comfortable there. You might tell me that this isn't your focus and i might call you out on that, especially after your pep talk about anyone being able to do anything if they try hard enough.

Your explanation might be interpreted as if Faker (the God of League) could play whatever he wanted on Mid lane and winning in Worlds, regardless of his opponent's pick. He can't change the fundamentals of the game no matter how good he is for the same reason you can't change the laws of physics, even if you understand everything about the subject.

One way to improve in League is to limit yourself to a very few champions you like as champions themselves are not complicated. They are very limited but they do interact with the environment, items and with other champions, which means getting used to your pick in a very short amount of time (20+ games for lvl 5 mastery is very reasonable for an average person to grasp how the champion plays). Once this is done, you then attempt to move playing a familiar champion to becoming a background task and more or less muscle memory and you learn about the game in general.

The video itself was not intended to shoehorn people into playing 1 or 2 champions all the time. The message was that in order for you to learn about your champion and the game, you limit yourself to as little information you need to function in a lane of your choosing in order for you to learn faster and easier about the game itself.

##No one is saying that experimenting on another champions or lanes is out of place but if you want to be the jack of all trades, you're a master of none.

Lost R2 votes

Do you know why I'm still stuck in Silver III? Because every time I get the slightest bit ahead, I get an ultra defeatist who jumps into the game and forces a surrender for absolutely no reason. I get entire teams that overspecialize on pentakills and teamfights, even when it's the last thing they should be focusing on, to the exclusion of absolutely everything else, who refuse to adapt to the enemy tactics, compositions and build, or defend, or push, or claim objectives. I get the miserable fucks who only pick champions that have the absolute highest global win rate, who bawl their eyes out and contemplate suicide and self mutilation every time Yasuo gets a change going either way. I get the dumbasses who go all AD melee assassin and then expect the fucking SUPPORT MAGE to tank more than the enemy Mundo, who expect the support to build the armor penetration AND the Grevious Wounds AND during all this not get any of the kills. I get the entitled inbred shits that blame me for losing us the game, even when I have a 32/37 kill participation, almost twice that of literally everyone else, while they go 0/10 in the first few minutes of the game, just because I have a Lich Bane or one or two kills.

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I overclock myself to an extreme every game in the slightest hope that someone will snap out of their quaalude coma just long enough to do something productive, who treat every fucking minion kill as the equivalent of climbing Mount Everest, who like to talk shit in the all chat and flap their mastery dicks at people when their team, not even themselves, get the slightest bit ahead and then bitch and whine about x champions, try to force a surrender the very instant they might start to fall behind, and then go active AFK when the surrender vote fails. I get the idiot Sun Tzu wannabes who refuse to defend every lane, then call for everyone to defend only after all three inhibitors are down at the fifteen minute mark, who think "group" is an instant win tactic and makes them a fucking genius field commander, even when they have demonstrated an absolute refusal to help or cooperate with anyone and we're down by twenty kills, five dragons and a baron.

This is not a one-man show. This is a team game, but the community has tried their fucking hardest to make it about themselves. I'm a support main because no one else will be, and I still fight just as hard as everyone else, if not harder. I don't have a premade team to fall back on (the premades I have found to be infinitely worse than the randoms), I don't follow any meta or what people want to delude themselves into thinking is the best build or champion. I break those meta drones in half during my spare time.

The game is in a very fucked state at the moment because everyone is a one trick pony, and every one trick pony have all focused on the exact same one fucking thing. I see it literally every game.

You overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. The highest technique you should aspire to is to have no technique.

Elikain1 votes

I'm a support main too. I specialize in maining Morgana but my comfort picks can be Zilean and Nami if one or both are picked. I don't go out of my way to attempt something new in ranked but Sona is looking pretty enticing right now, especially after the buffs.

In any case, in Diamond even, i'm seeing the exact same things you are. These people aren't magically better although just one or two may be completely wrong how they approach the game. But in Diamond, this is enough to lose you the game. All other positions can usually carry but supports can't carry in the same way. I can provide an opportunity with CC and utility but that doesn't mean every time i do something right, it's a green light for someone to go in and die.

People chase kills here, they want to feel superior, they don't often go for objectives, junglers often ignore lanes that need ganks and always opt in for ganking that top lane tank that doesn't really care about all of them if his engage depends on that brainless ult cast. Carries don't itemize properly and i don't really care what they buy as long it's a stat their champion can actually use and buy proper defense penetration when the enemy starts stacking it. Void Staff and LW are usually skipped which in turn makes me question how they got to Diamond if games are being played in this manner.

You overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. The highest technique you should aspire to is to have no technique.

You didn't disapprove my point though. You can be the jack of all trades but you are master of none. You have a lot of knowledge but you don't have the specific knowledge to understand how something works in minute details. You have general knowledge to understand how to approach certain things, which isn't really hard to get. You feel as if you're wasting your time by worrying you're too close-minded and the need to branch out which in turn robs you of the experience to be able to truly call yourself skilled.

That's fine. There are a lot of different approaches, some people enjoy being one-trick ponies, some people (like myself) like to impose limits and some people like to experience everything. But in the game of LoL, i'v been here for 7 years and i still don't know all the game mechanics not pertaining to specific champions while champions are somewhat easy for me to understand. So my emphasis is primarily on those, hence my limited champion pool of 3 actual champions.

On the side note, if you feel like you're the one actually doing everything you can but are unable to carry, it is entirely possible your MMR has tanked low enough for you not to be able to get yourself out anymore. Teams are highly disorganized in lower ELOs but the principle is the same - people who make less mistakes win.

I suggest you switch accounts and try to get a fresh start on MMR, unless you value what you have on your current account. I've done this in the past and i'm Diamond now. Almost 2 years on my side account, abandoned my main.

B1naryB0t1 votes

Ban yasuo every game. All your problems will go away.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Better blame your teammates instead of trying to get better, seems legit.

AwesomeChad1 votes

you should really post this on the comment section of the video. I don't know if the OP is actually the youtuber.

Lost R1 votes

It's more important that the people here directly in the community sees it.

Pierce The Veal5 votes

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While I will agree that the OP's video exaggerates it a bit, I would also like to say that you too are exaggerating it. Nothing you're doing is beyond the capabilities of a human being, but there is no way you can know anything about neuroscience and claim that you're proficient at everything you do because you focus on everything. And no, the human brain isn't infinite. We aren't capable of multitasking, and we can't do everything if we focus. There are things that are simply impossible to do. Being better than a one trick pony when you play 10 champions? Unlikely, possible, but unlikely. But to do that, you'd need to be much better than the one trick pony at the game in general, and that's why you see very few generalist players in challenger. At certain extrema of skill and knowledge, two intellectually equal human beings can't really exceed eachother by much.

Lost R2 votes

Why do you say "there's no way"? I may not have any professional experience in the field, but everything related to the brain has been an intense fascination for me for the greater half of my life, and I have studied it extensively. Yes, I can't do literal brain surgery, but you don't need to do literal brain surgery to learn about how the brain works.

When I was 11, I was put around people who were, for all intents and purposes, DEAD. They all suffered from beyond extreme cases of brain degeneration; most were not even aware of themselves, their surroundings or capable of basically anything. And they were continuing to degrade, almost visibly. I started researching then about the human brain and everything related to consciousness, the soul, and seriously questioned the ethics about keeping such a person alive when there was no "person". Hell of a topic for a child to start contemplating.

When I was 15, someone smashed my head into a dumpster and I had to receive, among other things, a brain scan and a physical and mental examination to make sure there was no lasting damage. I can't feel anything in my forehead anymore, but according to the doctor, if there was any brain damage from the incident, I was either not at all affected by it or I was still performing very far above other children my age despite it.

A few years later, I discovered an article about a man whose entire life and personality had changed because of a brain injury he sustained as a child, and it made me start to fear and wonder about the incident and any changes that might not be yet detectable inside my brain. So, yes, it has been a very important subject me, and I continue to study it.

I explained that the brain is NEAR infinite; I don't know the brain's limit for capacity, but I do know from personal history that we don't all start on the same starting line, that we are capable of amazing things if we put our minds to it, and that most people will probably never reach that final capacity before they die.

My point is that people in League limit themselves to such extremes that it becomes laughably easy to take advantage of them as individuals and as teams. I see almost nothing except ADC and assassin mains these days, and these same people will come on the forums and complain that tanks are overpowered when they play right into their weaknesses. We have too may one trick ponies who all do the exact same one thing, and even though they dumped ten thousand plus hours into the role, they aren't even that good at it.

THAT is the point I'm trying to make.

Sans Hama6 votes

Congratulations that you are good at this game and that you believe yourself superior to other kids because you got beat up for being an annoying shit.

Here's the thing, to get the level of mastery you have on all those champs. You must of been playing for quite some time, not saying you are a no life in anyway, just that you obviously have played quite a lot.

If someone else, had played the same amount of time as you, with only one champion. Then he will fucking kick your ass, thats all OP's Video says, thats all we are saying. I currently have been playing this game for 4 months, I have just started playing ranked, and have 250 mastery points on my main, Twitch, who yes is an adc and an assassin. I ward, i focus on objectives and i try and win I am currently in Bronze 1, but i haven't been able to get to silver because i haven't actually been ranked long enough to climb. The human brain is not some infinite tool however, and they only reason that I'm getting good at playing games is because i dont need to work on my champion. Its second nature, that way i can focus on being better at the game overall.

Not everyone here is trying to become an LCS player, or really wants to put in the dedication to get actually talented. Sure, they are going to want and try to get better, but they won't spend 3 hours in a custom game just focusing on CSing to get better. Its a game, people wanna have fun and without a doubt, ADC and Assasains are some of the funnest roles!

Just because you believe that you are so much smarter "and have unlocked your full potential" doesn't mean you are better of good, you have spent an insane amount of time playing this game and i do not doubt that you have gotten very good at it overall, not just champion mechanics.

However, for beginners, more relaxed players, and players wanting to get good this stands true! Someone can very easily equal your skill level in a small amount of time by playing 1 person. Despite how smart you think you are OP's point remains true. And its uncool to run in here, claim everyone else hasn't used their brain as much as you and sucks because they play ADC or asasain or aren't trying as hard as you or haven't played as much (too many "or" i know). Its a game, no need to be a douche

I am at your current skill level in about 4 months, just because i am a one pony trick who plays a champion very well. I have practiced with him so now i focus on other things and i can actually get better.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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Congratulations that you are good at this game and that you believe yourself superior to other kids because you got beat up for being an annoying shit.

Here's the thing, to get the level of mastery you have on all those champs. You must of been playing for quite some time, not saying you are a no life in anyway, just that you obviously have played quite a lot.

If someone else, had played the same amount of time as you, with only one champion. Then he will fucking kick your ass, thats all OP's Video says, thats all we are saying. I currently have been playing this game for 4 months, I have just started playing ranked, and have 250 mastery points on my main, Twitch, who yes is an adc and an assassin. I ward, i focus on objectives and i try and win I am currently in Bronze 1, but i haven't been able to get to silver because i haven't actually been ranked long enough to climb. The human brain is not some infinite tool however, and they only reason that I'm getting good at playing games is because i dont need to work on my champion. Its second nature, that way i can focus on being better at the game overall.

Not everyone here is trying to become an LCS player, or really wants to put in the dedication to get actually talented. Sure, they are going to want and try to get better, but they won't spend 3 hours in a custom game just focusing on CSing to get better. Its a game, people wanna have fun and without a doubt, ADC and Assasains are some of the funnest roles!

Just because you believe that you are so much smarter "and have unlocked your full potential" doesn't mean you are better of good, you have spent an insane amount of time playing this game and i do not doubt that you have gotten very good at it overall, not just champion mechanics.

However, for beginners, more relaxed players, and players wanting to get good this stands true! Someone can very easily equal your skill level in a small amount of time by playing 1 person. Despite how smart you think you are OP's point remains true. And its uncool to run in here, claim everyone else hasn't used their brain as much as you and sucks because they play ADC or asasain or aren't trying as hard as you or haven't played as much (too many "or" i know). Its a game, no need to be a douche

I am at your current skill level in about 4 months, just because i am a one pony trick who plays a champion very well. I have practiced with him so now i focus on other things and i can actually get better.

I couldn't have said it better.

Deaeras1 votes

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the reasoning behind the "one trick pony" shit is so that as you climb the ranks, you have this champ that you're very experienced at and know very well, that way you don't have to worry so much about comboing, knowing your damage and shit. as you get better and higher in elo you start to need to learn how to manage lanes, how to ward effectively, when to roam etc. the more you do this the better you get at it. once youve mastered all that shit, THEN you can start learning other champs. its hard to learn how to play at a high tier when every game you play a different champ

PrinceArchie6 votes

TFW your main is nerfed thoughKalista

Wolfram Oxford8 votes

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TFW your main is nerfed thoughKalista

I used to main Kalista, but then she took 1000000 nerfs to the knee.

Arkatra2 votes

I played Kalista for a while until it's became boring to test out every single nerf on her after a patch (or 2) in a custom with 1-2 friend. I'm afraid Jhin will get Kalista'd too.

Metalrichdog4 votes

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I played Kalista for a while until it's became boring to test out every single nerf on her after a patch (or 2) in a custom with 1-2 friend. I'm afraid Jhin will get Kalista'd too.

Unlikely. Jhin doesn't have this godly wall breaking ability to perma kite and to 'take a person that is dying away from a fight immediately'. (That's part of the reason Tahm got hard nerfed)

ZyniX3 votes

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I used to main Kalista, but then she took 1000000 nerfs to the knee.

So you didn't main her and were just a dirty FOTM player. Got it.

Masala Chai1 votes

I used to main Kalista, but then people started flaming me for picking her as ADC post 6.6, so then I stopped taking her into ranked. Still play her in Normals as ADC and occasionally Jungle.

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

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So you didn't main her and were just a dirty FOTM player. Got it.

I mean you can way whatever your toxic ass wants, but she has been nerfed to hard to main. Fuck playing the worst champion in the game.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Didja know that Lulu is the "worst support" right now according to champion.gg?

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Cancerous%20Lulu

So just because something is statistically the "worst", this means something is "unplayable", okay.

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

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So you didn't main her and were just a dirty FOTM player. Got it.

When something puts you at a disadvantage you shouldn't use it. Ranked is for winning, so yes, I like her kit, I mained her, but when she was hit too hard where she is the worst ADC, all the fun in the world shouldn't be able to convince me to keep that detrimental champion as my main.

Slack King1 votes

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TFW your main is nerfed thoughKalista

Mordekaiser Poor you, my main doesnt know the feeling

Mr Vulcanator5 votes

How the heck did you get that much mastery if Zed is permabanned?

Sammystorm2 votes

I am totally a Anivia one trick pony

NineTailedMystic2 votes

http://imgur.com/a/GFtCV

And I'll never stop playing her.

Michael Sykes1 votes

what do you play if she is banned or picked by another one?

NineTailedMystic1 votes

Dodge. Or when that's not an option, do everything in my power to make that game fucking miserable for her.

VasilisGreen1 votes

By the way, does the new client work normaly for you? I can't play on this thing at all anymore, it broke down completely

NineTailedMystic1 votes

I love it. It's had a few bugs, because it's well, alpha, but I've had no real breaking issues.

VasilisGreen1 votes

Well, here, i get a strange bug, probably related to overwolf. I start a game, and after the champ select ends, the screen starts flashing. I need to log in back to the live client to play normaly... i don't know what to do. I uninstalled overwolf, and the bug still happened. I reinstalled it and tried to record the bug on video to send it to overwolf support and when i hit "record" the bug stopped and everything went back to normal... what is this thing, how do i get rid of it?

Supreme Senpai692 votes

I cycle mains like every month or so. Then I get bored. But during that month-ish of time playing them, I learn them inside and out, their items and damage and range and counters, etc. That knowledge doesn't go away when I pick up a new champion to play. And a lot of times I'll go back to my older champions and play them again. What I'm tryin to say is that whether you play 1000 games or 10000 games, you're as good as you're gonna be. You won't learn anything new for that champion. You might learn knew decision making skills or kiting skills, but that's not exclusive to the champion.

I feel like someone can have as many mains as they want, honestly.

If I play 300 games on Veigar and then start playing Annie and now have 300 games on Annie, those Veigar games don't disappear. I still have the skill I've obtained with Veigar and can play him anytime with the same skill level I had, barring maybe one warmup match I'd need. Playing multiple champions and roles makes you so much better at the game. Why?

Because if you main Veigar, you know him inside and out. Then you go and main Zed. You know both of those champions very well. Now if you ever play Veigar into Zed, you know both yours and his champion. If you master every champion you'll be a monster and win lane every single game.

VasilisGreen1 votes

No. Just No. I don't know if you are some kind of League of Legends Genius or have the perfect muscle memory but, if you play a champion for 300 games and then leave that champion and play something else for that long time, when you go back, you will be rusty as fuck. Even if nothing changes through paches, you will be rusty as hell. And the higher the mechanical complexity of that champion, the worse you are gonna be after a long time break.

Maybe this doesn't apply to you, but it applies to the majority of players.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

I did say I need warmup matches. But other than that I sorta just disagree with you and we'd have to leave it at that. Maybe I'm a special snowflake or maybe one of us is wrong, but I'm sticking with what I said. \o.o/

Sans Hama1 votes

yea sure you will learn a lot of champs, however, in one month, i can play one champion, and then be just as good as you are with my champ then you are with yours.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

I think that's what I said, right?

Kuzja12 votes

I don't care if he's struggling. I will always main Corki . He's the only reason why I play this game. Playing as a helicopter is fun

bill841 votes

0:59-1:06 How the hell will they play that champ if it's perma-banned?

Holy Fervor1 votes

Ask for it to be first picked. That's how i got Kayle in 2014.

bill841 votes

But how does that work if she's banned?

Holy Fervor1 votes

You have a backup. If they're perma'ed just ask your team for it if your blue side and trade with someone. Hope for the best.

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

Zilean Has been my main and go to for mid and supp. After the zilean rework people were saying things like "Nooo, not zilean- hes so bad"

I personally think hes going to get nerfed sooner or later.

How ever I do have backup champs I'm pretty decent at.

LIke TahmKench Braum Heimerdinger Singed and Veigar and I used to main AP Shaco Supp (I'm not an awful jung I just don't find any jung fun)

Solitair1 votes

And the rest of his videos too. He makes great content.

FortisDominus1 votes

dirty Rengar main. However, if I go top lane I always play Gangplank

Athenes Lulu1 votes

The guy in the vid OP linked has good points, but the "play all the time because win all the time is fun" isn't always true.

For example, there are two champions, A and B. A is a person's one-trick main, he is good at playing champion A, but doesn't always win and in fact has a subpar 49% win rate. B is a very OP champ and the person also knows how to play B, but not as good as A. He has a much higher winrate with B than with A because B requires less thought and/or mechanics to play and win. If we use the logic from the video, the person should be maining B because "winning more is fun". But that's not the case. Winning with B, to him, isn't as satisfying as winning with A, despite he wins less with A, so therefore he sticks to maining A.

Yes, the speaker in OP's vid is right and that his ONE explanation is pretty logical, but it's more because some kits/playstyles cater to certain people more, which is why some people prefer to "main" something, while some others doesn't care about what he plays (or don't really know what he's good at) and just become a FotM reroller.

Crappy point, but that's my 2 cents.

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