Can we stop nerfing and start buffing?

Saezio··3 votes·1,023 views

Start buffing champions from the bottom up. Especially the counters to the strongest champs atm. Sure some nerfs are gonna be needed even then but the fact that some champions' ceilings are so low is something that sucks big time.

Riot seems to be unwilling to balance some champs while others are "entitled" to be buffed as soon as they are weak and nerfed as soon as they are strong

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GreenKnight2 votes

Oh, those threads are starting again. Jesus guy, we just ended a streak of buffs, direct and indirect. Give us a break, will ya?

Saezio1 votes

I'll give you a break if you show me what was buffed that was not damage oriented but either sustain or tankiness oriented.

Tobykachu2 votes

There is actually no difference between buffing the weak champions and nerfing the strong. They accomplish the same goal with the only difference being how easy it is to do such things. Even if you aimed to buff everything to be completely equal, it's inevitable that some champions would still emerge on top of all the others, which would then in turn require more buffs to everything else and the cycle would just continuously repeat.

For example, Lucian is currently very strong, but if you buffed Caitlyn just enough to be able to push him out of the bot lane then he'd be considered extremely weak, despite receiving no nerfs at all and would then need more buffs and the cycle would never end.

The only difference with nerfing things that are strong is that it's so much simpler and feels a lot more satisfying to see that champion you really hate seeing every game get put down a couple of notches.

Saezio1 votes

problem with that is there are champs that are weak and are never addressed. And it feels like shit to never be buffed because the champ is not very popular

Tobykachu1 votes

Most if not all of the noticeably weak champions are a direct result of being too over tuned to be viable and the second they become viable completely crowd out the competition in high elo and pro play. Ryze, Kalista, Azir etc.

Immortal SOUŁ1 votes

No. no one liked the damage "everyone one shots everyone "meta . Let's NOT start buffing shit again

Saezio1 votes

Or we could buff tankiness to begin with

Moonscourge1 votes

When your base line is too high, you don't start raising everything else up. Makes no sense. Imagine if this kept up for even a few patches. Suddenly you need to buff every objective in the game as well because they suddenly become pushovers.

Saezio1 votes

Because the "nerfing what's good in pro" philosophy has been so successful. If they buff stuff that counters what is strong atm it means it won't be as strong. For example, if they introduced some tanky antiburst items, it would be a buff to tanks and everyone not an assassin while not nerfing the assassins themselves.

Look at the irelia and akali and aatrox nerfs, Riot can't balance for soloque

MirrorU1 votes

What are you talking about? They've pretty much endlessly buffed champs none stop, of course it's never the champs that actually need buffs, like you'll never see a buff to Nautilus , but if you're a Garen or MasterYi they'll buff you until the end of time.

Saezio2 votes

Well, since damage is the problem atm. Start by buffing tanks to make them able to protect their team

Some candidates Zac Rammus Malphite Nautilus Taric Volibear Singed Nunu just make sure to buff their tankiness and ability to peel instead of damage, even nerf their damage if it means they can be tanks again

MirrorU1 votes

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Well, since damage is the problem atm. Start by buffing tanks to make them able to protect their team

Some candidates Zac Rammus Malphite Nautilus Taric Volibear Singed Nunu just make sure to buff their tankiness and ability to peel instead of damage, even nerf their damage if it means they can be tanks again

The problem is some of those listed champs have so much dmg that they are actually part of the problem. Case and point are Malphite, and Nunu. They have such a disgusting amount of damage that at 1 point they just start to 1 shot everyone, especially AP malph.

CauseSCIENCE2 votes

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The problem is some of those listed champs have so much dmg that they are actually part of the problem. Case and point are Malphite, and Nunu. They have such a disgusting amount of damage that at 1 point they just start to 1 shot everyone, especially AP malph.

Nunu has no damage late game and no tankiness early, without building ap of course, which kinda balances out.

MirrorU1 votes

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Nunu has no damage late game and no tankiness early, without building ap of course, which kinda balances out.

Nunu usually builds AP now, as going straight tank really does nothing for him anymore.

ChaosLordMadis1 votes

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What are you talking about? They've pretty much endlessly buffed champs none stop, of course it's never the champs that actually need buffs, like you'll never see a buff to Nautilus , but if you're a Garen or MasterYi they'll buff you until the end of time.

Never mind miss read that XD

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