@Meddler: How would you do to Void Staff what you did to Last Whisper?

darkdill·Dec 10, 2015·3 votes·405 views

I imagine the answer might be "we won't do the same thing", but it seems kinda lazy to leave Void Staff as a "you can't use any MR to fight me anymore" item rather than "you can't counter me with MR as easily". It's still got the same problem its had for seasons: it's non-negotiable. You never get something else instead of it. There's absolutely no choice involved; you either get Void Staff, or you suck/lose/die/etc.

What could be done to change this? How would you turn Void Staff into a component item rather than a complete item?

10 Comments

Big LincolnDec 10, 20152 votes

void staff is fine

AP champions generally don't have amazing dps and the ones who do will generally eat through their mana/are way more vulnerable to getting dived/engaged

i'm okay with it

Paladin 0f LifeDec 10, 20151 votes

make a burn mr pen item for morello, liandry, and void that would be sick

EddiotDec 10, 20151 votes

Or you can play Veigar, Veigar mocks your MR.

EcchiOtakuTMDec 10, 20151 votes

So basically you want to nerf mages vs tanks even more than they already are and on top of it squishies.

darkdillDec 10, 20152 votes

Not necessarily. Void Staff could build into something that gives mages an anti-tank option.

EcchiOtakuTMDec 10, 20151 votes

Yea new LW is worse vs high base defense, which won't be quite the same since all range and melee champs have the same base MR (Either 35 or 86 if I remember) But it will make squishy killing harder since you'll be forced to itemize more into flat penetration making void staff not really a go to buy for mages.

darkdillDec 10, 20151 votes

That's partially the point. Void Staff presently is an "always take, no exceptions" item, when it should be a strategic choice.

EcchiOtakuTMDec 10, 20151 votes

Yea but the LW nerf hurt assassins, AD casters(Jayce/Urgot/Varus), and some snowballers(Although I have a healthier suggestion to replace the old LW

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/yYBm9rXq-i-honestly-love-the-changes-placed-in-however-i-as-well-as-many-have-a-few-suggestions

19+20

But the same wouldn't work for mages.

ZephyrDrakeDec 10, 20151 votes

base mr and base armor are way too different for this to do anything meaningful

SKOBODODec 10, 20151 votes

Physical damage dealers can get Black Cleaver. If Void Staff changes to bonus MR, then magical damage dealers should get some item similar to Black Cleaver.