What Build Order Should I Use For JAYCE?

ItsOrval··2 votes·571 views

I feel like im doing a lot of damage once I get my youmuus, but after that, my damage seems to fade away or stay the same till i get my IE & Phantom Dancers.

So how should I build Jayce in order?

These are the items I use, and I wont replace any of them: item 3147 item 3142 item 3071 item 3158 item 3031 item 3046 item 3156

My build order is currently this: item 3142 item 3158 item 3071 item 3147 item 3156 item 3031 Replace Boots: item 3046

17 Comments

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

When I played him, I would generally just build along the following lines: item 3158 item 3004 item 3142 item 3071 item 3036 item 3026

ItsOrval1 votes

Muramana is useless on him now unless you are new with him. Lords is bad on him due to BC's passive and Jayce Cannon R Auto Attack. Guardian Angel is ok, but Jayce isnt a bruiser, he made to sit back and poke enemies with Q+E, and is meant to destroy structures/wave clear.

Apocalypsic1 votes

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Muramana is useless on him now unless you are new with him. Lords is bad on him due to BC's passive and Jayce Cannon R Auto Attack. Guardian Angel is ok, but Jayce isnt a bruiser, he made to sit back and poke enemies with Q+E, and is meant to destroy structures/wave clear.

Muramana is not useless at all, the scaling is amazing and the full stack passive is soooo strong with his cannon stance W and other single target effects in his kit.

Also, Jayce isn't just supposed to sit back, EVERYTHING about hammer stance is fantastic and there is a reason he gets a defensive steroid for entering it.

My build for example is (Mind you I run with my Riven rune page when I play him, which obvs has CDR) item 3043 Either item 3047 or item 3111 then item 3071 item 3142 item 3156 item 3033

ItsOrval1 votes

Would you rather have a +5 damage DuskBlade with 10+ armor pen, and the passive. Or have the Muramana where you have to build up a Tear (that you dont even need (Hammer Stance W maintains mana)), and then get a buff to one ability? In my own opinion id rather have Duskblade, armor penetration makes your Q+E on Cannon mode bring squishies to half health.

Apocalypsic1 votes

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Would you rather have a +5 damage DuskBlade with 10+ armor pen, and the passive. Or have the Muramana where you have to build up a Tear (that you dont even need (Hammer Stance W maintains mana)), and then get a buff to one ability? In my own opinion id rather have Duskblade, armor penetration makes your Q+E on Cannon mode bring squishies to half health.

I'd rather have the muramana and the mana pool that goes with it for poking and fights. I'd rather have the lategame scaling than the extra armor pen that isn't that impactful in the late game with the pen you already build normally. Muramana also is a boon towards his E as well not just his auto's.

Jayce can already nuke squishies even with out the duskblade, I honestly think the item is pointless on him.

Sasogwa1 votes

Order is item 3142 -> item 3071 -> the rest

Calabok1 votes

item 1004 item 3672 item 2303 item 3222 item 3642

ItsOrval1 votes

thanks

IcyPepper1 votes

These are the items I use, and I wont replace any of them:

You don't build differently depending on the situation?

ItsOrval1 votes

Nope, I see a lot of challenger players dont either. So why not.

IcyPepper2 votes

Because adaptability is a skill. Challenger players are consistent, and if they're playing against other consistent players their builds might not change often, except certain match-ups I suppose.

Plus, build order might differ depending on the game. The same cookie cutter build in the same exact order does not work in every single game. You might have different needs at the time, or the enemy is building differently and you need to counter them.

ItsOrval1 votes

What items would you even take off

IcyPepper1 votes

I honestly don't play Jayce, but this is just general advice I've given so far.

My initial thoughts so far, however: item 3156 not (as) useful against full physical damage teams. Notice I said physical, not AD. You may still want it against some tanks. item 3031 item 3046 can be ditched if you're not going for a full crit build (especially since ghostblade's changes long ago) item 3036 is great in the top lane against beefy opponents, and combined with BC helps shred tanks. Since you typically will have a bot lane AD carry, you don't necessarily need the same build as them.

Items you may want to build on occasion: Mainly defensive items like item 3102 item 3026 and so on. Your build has the bare minimum of tankiness for top laners, making you nearly as squishy as an ADC. Especially if you go against another AD opponent who doesn't deal much if at all magic damage.

You're severely limiting yourself if you refuse build flexibility. Consider cause and effect. Challenger players aren't challenger because they build the same thing, they build the same thing because they're challenger. And even then, in a game full of challengers half of them are going to lose anyway.

ItsOrval1 votes

item 3156 Well I know that one, usually if I dont have any enemies with AP I build GA instead.

item 3036 No way man, you never want to use this with BC on Jayce. If you look at the statistics, it is useless compared to a item 3147 or the crit items item 3031 item 3046. Lets say a champ has 200 armor total, using Jayce's R Cannon passive reduces armor 10%-25% depending on level (We'll use 17.5 to split the difference). 200 - 17.5% = 165 Armor. Now we take BC's passive (Jayce is very good at getting off all 6 stacks of bc due to all of his abilities and his W on Cannon). So now you take 165 - 30% = 115.5 armor. Then, if youre using the same build im using with the same masteries/runes, youd have 67 armor penetration. Thus theyd have 48.5 armor left. Then using the item 3036 item, itd only take away about 15 armor due to it only taking away bonus armor. item 3102 isnt something youd want, youd want item 3156 instead which goes with jayce much better. item 3026 Is a good item, but it ruins your damage outcome.

Girard1 votes

Dude I have Rank 7 on Jayce and about 200k Mastery points across 3 different accounts. The comments I'm seeing you leave, I really can't tell if you're blindly following the pros or just genuinely want to better yourself on Jayce.

Youmuu's is good, but that's because pro players know how to properly watch and utilize their mana. It isn't like "pros didn't build manamune, so I'm not going to" It's still an insanely amazing item that synergizes perfectly with him and I build it in 99% of all games I play.

These are the items I use, and I wont replace any of them:

....why? Because pros build those items nothing else can be viable? Don't get me wrong, pros are great and all. But other people have good opinions and champ builds too and it doesn't mean that I'm not good at Jayce either, I'm great as him. Try other builds, that's just a normal game mechanic that you need to learn if you want to get better.

Your build is okay but it lacks a lot of resistances so if you have a hard time in lane or overall you can die pretty quickly. Merc treads or a Sterak's go a looooong way.

Muramana is useless on him now unless you are new with him. Lords is bad on him due to BC's passive and Jayce Cannon R Auto Attack. Guardian Angel is ok, but Jayce isnt a bruiser, he made to sit back and poke enemies with Q+E, and is meant to destroy structures/wave clear.

I'm not going to check your ranking on Jayce but like even if it was pretty high, that statement is just flat out untrue. Muramana is not awful, Lords isn't a bad item on him (although usually I build mortal reminder) and Jayce is a bruiser? He's either all-in or all-poke, and playing him as a glass cannon ranged marksman is nothing compared to how he is meant to be played.

Apocalypsic1 votes

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Dude I have Rank 7 on Jayce and about 200k Mastery points across 3 different accounts. The comments I'm seeing you leave, I really can't tell if you're blindly following the pros or just genuinely want to better yourself on Jayce.

Youmuu's is good, but that's because pro players know how to properly watch and utilize their mana. It isn't like "pros didn't build manamune, so I'm not going to" It's still an insanely amazing item that synergizes perfectly with him and I build it in 99% of all games I play.

....why? Because pros build those items nothing else can be viable? Don't get me wrong, pros are great and all. But other people have good opinions and champ builds too and it doesn't mean that I'm not good at Jayce either, I'm great as him. Try other builds, that's just a normal game mechanic that you need to learn if you want to get better.

Your build is okay but it lacks a lot of resistances so if you have a hard time in lane or overall you can die pretty quickly. Merc treads or a Sterak's go a looooong way.

I'm not going to check your ranking on Jayce but like even if it was pretty high, that statement is just flat out untrue. Muramana is not awful, Lords isn't a bad item on him (although usually I build mortal reminder) and Jayce is a bruiser? He's either all-in or all-poke, and playing him as a glass cannon ranged marksman is nothing compared to how he is meant to be played.

Preach.

These flavor worlds Jayce builds in solo que tilt me.

ItsOrval1 votes

I have 250k+ mastery skill from Jayce on this account and PlaySmartDieDumb (My alt) combined. I have tried many builds on Jayce and this is the best one ive tried. I have tried going Bruiser, ive tried full crit (trinity force), Full AD, and full tank. I never said anything about my build being off of Pros only, I got this build from http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/items/jayce/top/diamond where I tested items with the highest win rate. They build Muramana as well, but I dont because I dont need it. Your Hammer literally fills your mana back up fast. Unless you are one of those players that just use your 6 abilities non stop wasting mana, then yeah buy it. I farm minions, AA the enemy then go back to farming. I dont waste any mana unless I need to. Also they buffed Jayce's E awhile ago where it only costs 40 now.

I'm not going to check your ranking on Jayce but like even if it was pretty high, that statement is just flat out untrue.

Ok, then i will just bring it to you. https://s11.postimg.org/5vq0rd6wz/Screenshot_33.png

And sadly cant bring it up on this account due to it being perma-banned.

These are the items I use, and I wont replace any of them:

....why?

Because they work good? I was not asking for item build suggestions, I was asking for help with the build order of my current build.

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