*New Idea* Vote To Dodge:

ItsOrval··51 votes·2,487 views

When you are in ranked, you want to play to win. This cannot happen sometimes do to people who want to Lee sin mid, Yasuo jungle, Soraka top, etc.

If you decide to dodge from said queue, you will not only lose LP, but you will have to wait 6/15/? minutes. We should have a Vote to Dodge queue. This way when you end up getting troll queues, you can vote to dodge on your team, now you wont lose lp or have to wait to play again.

Thoughts?

75 Comments

ph1234k11 votes

It sounds like a good idea but I could easily see it abused by players who lack enough game knowledge to even understand a pick.

ItsOrval1 votes

Yeah, thats my issue with it as well

DeathTheHorseman7 votes

The bigger problem is enemy team picks Yasuo or something else broken.

Your team didn't ban it => vote dodge...

Nameless Voice2 votes

Honestly, this is the only reason I'd even use this feature if it existed.

WinTheWarOnPants10 votes

just cause someone's off meta doesn't mean they are trolling/not trying to win. i had a game TOP: Mordekaiser JG: Amumu MID: Evelynn (no it wasn't me Q.Q, but i do play her mid quite a bit) ADC: Sivir SUP: Ziggs <--- ME XD everyone on my team was super positive and we had a blast. we also dominated the enemy team and won in 23 min.

NotSpecialDude12 votes

sad day when Amumu jg is considered out of meta.

WinTheWarOnPants1 votes

XD was mostly talking about top, mid, and sup lol

Ehlekar7 votes

Careful with calling Morde top an off-meta pick, you might summon a particularly Malicious Morde main...

WinTheWarOnPants5 votes

http://i.giphy.com/3oI9JwhAWoYwB3RA2c.gif dear god what have i done!!

Plastic Mem0ries1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Supreme Senpai692 votes

To be fair though they wouldn't vote to dodge if everyone was super positive, yea?

MoonmansDisciple1 votes

Dont play off meta in ranked. People play ranked to win and as such do not want to play with blitz mid or rammus top/support. Play the meta in ranked.

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

you cannot stop my MID/TOP: Evelynn SUP/TOP: Ziggs !!!! i will play it and i will carry you whether you like it or not! [slayer-jinx-catface]

TheSingularity4 votes

Had a game with an AD Leblanc top who vsed a Tryndamere . I had no idea that she was building AD and when I saw it I flipped my shit internally, thinking "did I seriously get this f$ckin r$tard fed? GG!"

And then, as I was being chased by tryndy and lee, this f$cken AD leblanc comes OUT OF NOWHERE! and legit 2 hit lee with AA then kited trynd to oblivion with her beautiful 40% CDR, tri force and a frozen mallet.

I Was Freaken Gobsmacked

And I sucked her off for the rest of the game, I was her student and she my senpai.

Most significant game I ever experienced.

WinTheWarOnPants1 votes

that was a beautiful story! [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

TheSingularity1 votes

Ikr? just keep visualising the second last line. Was it really lb? Or just an illusion?

ArkVeil1 votes

Reminds me of a game where my duo partner got destroyed by an AP Tryn. We may have lost but I laughed my ass off XD

Ehlekar1 votes

Trynda has 100% AP scaling on his E which does physical damage. He truly is spin-to-win

dunkeroni4 votes

"xXDragonSuckerXx" doesn't get jungle, proceeds to pick soraka top lane just to have his team vote for dodge.

ItsOrval1 votes

Maybe make a limit, like 3 votes a day for dodging. So people wont waste theirs 24/7.

dunkeroni2 votes

You misunderstand. I don't need to use my dodge votes if I can just pick something dumb enough to force other people to dodge. This is already a common problem with Junglers and Mid laners who try to hijack roles if they don't get the right one. With dodge votes, they would have a ready made excuse for trolling: "If they had a problem with my pick, they should have voted to dodge".

CookyPrince3 votes

Probably have report the troll function to as to why you're team dodging like if they say "I'm going to int" or go something like ghost cleanse supp teemo and have riot go through the logs and ban them temp or perma depending how often they force people to dodge a queue and past history

dunkeroni1 votes

You can't report someone after you all dodge.

CookyPrince1 votes

Yeah but then what would you suggest?

Silverjust1 votes

that should be part of the dodge-vote. or you can report in que and then dodge, get the penalty, but when the report is confirmed you get the LP back

It Hertz When IP1 votes

Actually, depending on whether the enemy top already picked, Top Soraka might not be too bad. I mean, she can already build off-tank (Warmogs) and do well, and she'll still get cross-map assists.

LatetotheRace4 votes

Nice idea, but it CANNOT ever work.

It Hertz When IP3 votes

I think you mean "would not". "Cannot" implies a moral issue, "would not" just a feasibility issue.

LatetotheRace1 votes

Either, or even Both are appropriate. Seeing as it cannot nor will it ever work.

DarkRitual3 votes

I've played Soraka Top. It's not terrible into some matchups. Needs some early Attack Speed to make farming not horrid though.

Voting to dodge only punishes players for going off-meta, which is not something that should be punishable by players. Sion support, MF support, tank Fizz/Akali/Ekko were all off-meta things that have proven their use (however niche they may or may not be). Punishing players for trying new things in normals, or bringing practiced off-meta things into ranked, is a terrible idea.

ItsOrval1 votes

I agree with you, but lets be honest.. You arent going to carry top lane as a Soraka compared to a Fiora, Jayce, etc. When people go adcs as support, I dont care about that as much. Lots of champs in this game can be played as supports.

Also another thing to note, is when people are already toxic in the pregame lobby. Do you really want to play with a toxic person when the game hasnt even started yet? Just my thought.

DarkRitual2 votes

I would never expect to carry from top lane. If you have a kill bot lane and tanky frontline jungle, having a supportive champ from toplane can be fine. Build for teamfights later, and do what you can to manage laning phase.

I don't usually deal with toxic people, but when I do they are only toxic in-game as well only half the time (very anecdotal evidence for sure). Nobody WANTS to deal with toxic people, but people wouldn't just vote to dodge toxic people, they would vote to dodge for bad teamcomps and off-meta picks more than to avoid negative players.

6Sfool3 votes

So what you want is for meta sheep to have more control over meta enforcing?

If someone wants to try something off-meta and you don't want to deal with it, ask nicely and they might swap for something more reasonable. If they don't, and end up costing you the game, you can report them and leave it up to riot to decide whether they are trolling. All of my best games have off-meta picks, because it puts old stuff under a new light.

The amount of trolls I've encountered out of all off-meta picks is under 5%. The rest are actually awesome teammates.

Cowseed2 votes

Just vote to kick. Much better because teams can reform much faster

Ehlekar1 votes

4-man premades would abuse the hell out of this unfortunately.

Cowseed1 votes

They don't have 4-man premades anymore.

Bard R Friday2 votes

It's hard to distinguish from trolls and people who are skilled at their off meta pick, but you shouldn't be allowed to decide not to play with a certain pick that you don't like. I think most of the time someone playing off meta in ranked knows what they are doing, as they get penalties too if they're trolling, and if they are trolling they will be in a far lower MMR than you and not be in your games.

The 2nd Horseman2 votes

The big issue there is it being abused by people who see the enemy's team comp countering theirs

EdgerAllanPwnd1 votes

The system will be abused my 3 or 4 man queues. tbh its a good idea but wouldn't work in practice

ItsOrval2 votes

I thought they were making ranked duo queue. If not they can make it so if you're in a party, you cant vote to dodge.

EdgerAllanPwnd2 votes

i mean in like normal draft queues sorry for the confusion

rtbf761092711 votes

People have brought this up before and the same thing will always prevent it. This will double or even triple queue times, depending on how many "dodges" you allow per person, per week.

Weapon Meister1 votes

Some people think I'm trolling when I lock in Zilean mid, very few people.

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

same here when I go zil supp..

MorrisseyMarr1 votes

Feel like you would never get a game because anytime a team had an unfavorable match up in champ select they'd just dodge

I'd be for it if you lost the lp anyway so at the very least you don't have to spend 20 minutes getting trolled

Also needs to be a report function in champ select

SkZ DoPe1 votes

why would a troll agree to any vote to dodge ?

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

the problem would be if the other team has a better team comp or selects your team champs before them. then people would vote to dodge

ItsOrval1 votes

They could give a limited amount of votes to players to prevent this.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

like a once a day type of thing. yeah that might be fair.

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

'omg this is the 4th game everybody leave' proceeds to vote to abandon group because of a strange pick like Vayne Top.

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