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It's time to remove stealth

TrikzterzArma·7/13/2019, 10:18:03 AM·3 votes·1,018 views

It's the most fucking unfair mechanic in any game, because there's literally no counter to it. HOTS even completely removed the full stealth mechanic because it was broken and had no counter.

I'm so fucking tired of a Twitch popping out of nowhere to threeshot the entire team with his ult.

Stealth is extremely unhealthy.

8 Comments

Ieafboom7/13/2019, 10:26:49 AM4 votes

imagine playing twitch without Q, lmao

Xavanic7/13/2019, 11:09:09 AM3 votes

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NoPaxt7/13/2019, 11:57:27 AM2 votes

You don't need to remove it, just make wards actually work.

Teh Song7/13/2019, 11:15:07 AM1 votes

If they took stealth out of a moba, it would immediately become the worst moba hands down, and a very large portion of the playerbase would never play it again. It would be one hell of a fast way to shrink the playerbase and cause the game's death.

Stealth is a great and entirely balance-able mechanic, that improves the games it's added to.

Teh Song7/13/2019, 12:39:39 PM1 votes

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Having 2 kinds of stealth is necessary, and it is also necessary that only one of those is revealed by wards.

Passive stealth, i.e. camo, live Evelynn's, should be revealed by wards. Activfe stealth, i.e. transparency, like Shaco's, should not.

Why? Passive stealth needs it's counter, besides just proximity detection. So wards reveal it. But wards should NOT be the counter to active stealth, otherwise it effectively doesn't exist. In truth, active stealth is the counter to wards, and that's how it should be.

I've played a moba that tried having wards reveal active stealth, and EVERYONE hated it. EVERYONE. The characters in that moba that used active stealth became completely unusable and were never seen again.

You also got to remember there's 2 sides to every coin. There are a lot of mechanics that some, or even many, people find unfun to play against. Yet these mechanics persist. Why? Because they are fun to play as.

fun vs unfun to play against isnt any more important than fun vs unfun to play as. Assassins who burst you down are unfun to play against, but they are fun to play as, so they will never stop being a thing. Tanks with huge survive-ablity (comparatively speaking) are unfun to play against, but they are fun to play as, so they will never stop being a thing.

datfatguy7/13/2019, 1:55:03 PM1 votes

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HOTS even completely removed the full stealth mechanic because it was broken and had no counter.

And nobody plays that shit so what are you trying to get at?