Jg camps to be made even harder?!
Just read meddlers state of the game message posted about 21 hours ago. He apparently thinks jg influence is still too strong. This claim is laughable as it only applies to a small portion of jungle champions. Currently more than half of jungle champs can't clear efficiently with many needing to back mid clear just to finish.
He also thinks jg XP is too high stating that video is half a level higher after her first clear on average. Sure, jg camp XP is better IF you are one of the champions that can power through the camps. There are not many that can do this successfully. Using one champion to nerf an entire role is FUCKING RETARDED. MEDDLER REREAD THAT LAST SENTENCE SO IT STICKS. Additionally, the longer respawns on camps makes it so that by the time you can do another round of non-buff camps you are actually behind unless you went to gank and taxed the lane. This is where the real issue is with XP. After clearing camps, it takes so long for them to respawn that we don't sacrifice anything to do gank. If you increase the spawn rate and decrease xp, you make it so ganking invariably means we are having half our jungle taken by the enemy jungler.
Additionally, talking about XP there's a lot of whining about junglers out leveling solo lanes. Guess what kids... THE JUNGLE IS A SOLO LANE TOO. So why shouldn't we level at roughly the same rate as top and mid? Minions get to lane roughly at 1:45 and it takes 9 waves for a solo laner to hit level 6. So that first wave plus 8 more waves has their level 6 XP in lane at 5:45. The fastest jungle farmers only farming can hit level 6 at 7 minutes. So in reality we have less access to farm XP than solo lanes. We have brief moments where we are higher level early on but we have to walk across the entire damn map to get to our next set of camps. So it evens out by the end of the clear. Additionally, the first 1150 gold of most junglers are spent on items that only increase combat effectiveness against jungle camps. Meanwhile, enemy lanes have picked up a caulfields Warhammer, or a chain vest and cloth, or an extra 40 to 60 AP. This means that in relative item power we are at a huge disadvantage early. So is it wrong that we are able to gank mid lane with an extra level? I argue no it's not.
Seriously meddler, every change you have made to the jungle this season has had enormous negative effect on the game as a whole. You are failing to see the real issue with the jungle. All your "fixes" have done is made a large number of jungle champions relatively unplayable while making a handful of jungle champions shine. The more difficult you make the jungle to clear, the more true this will become. Additionally all the excessive jungle influence is coming from junglers not having camps left to farm because of long respawn timers and not their farm XP. Jungle farm XP is in fact lower than either solo lane which is ridiculous because jungle is a solo lane too. If you need it even more as you have stated, the only time camps will be cleared is if junglers have smite up or if they need to hit a power spike. This will force us into the lanes more which will create even more jungle influence than before.
Bring back the old jungle and all this goes away. All you have to do is admit all these changes sucked. So grow a pair and admit your mistake. We will forgive you I promise.
