Whats the reason to build those new support items over the old ones?

It might be slot efficient, but

1. Supports probably wont get 6 items that often anyway
2. The stats are pretty awful compared to the other items but they still cost the same and 3) The actives of the old items are like... game changing considering their cooldown

What? From what Ive seen the new is actually pretty op. It slows by 40% for 4 seconds, which is forever in League- time. To put in perspective, max rank Gnar Q has a 35% slow and this shit makes you feel like you cant move at all + it only slows for 2s lol. Oh and also it can hit 2 champs at once so... thats cool.

Technically you pay 800 gold for those actives, which is more than worth imo and you can get , which is great and reduces their CD even more.

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active can be pretty usefull in chase, escape situations, but gives you equivalent stats, some health, and free a slot in your inventory, so if you really want the active get a righteous glory and get some more HP/mana to make full use of your empty slot.

The new actives on is straight down useless, they remove twin shadow because its never used mainly because its a bad version of morello with a shitty active and then they turn in a worse version of twin shadow. Getting gives you some ap, the mendatory sightstone active, gold income and mana regen in one slot, and you can make place for an item better than frost fang.

shield isn't that great, and gives you the same amount of health and regen as face the mountain + a free slot.

Spooky ghosts is a good active. I like that they put it on FQC instead of the tacky skillshot slow. I've used it in 3 games with good results, it's a good chasing and kiting tool.

Talisman has one of the strongest active in the game, certainly the strongest support active in the game, on a CD that's ridiculously low. I would never get the coin+SS item over Talisman. You're right that glory exists but it's a lot longer (more money) to build, the speed buff can't be used defensively, the CD is longer, and if you're a squishy utility support you're likely not making much use of the AoE slow that follows.

Who would rather have that? Because I certainly wouldnt even if I needed the item slot. Also is pretty good now, so...

Well Im loving the slow from on Soraka lol

Maybe, but their stats are too bad for any non- support and their passives are still made for supports. I think youd be better off just getting or no upgrade for at all.

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I might consider getting the new combo sightstone/support items if it was lategame enough that I could sell both the ruby sightstone and the FotM/FQC/ToA and immediately buy the other one and a new full item.

But even then that only occurs super lategame post-full build on a support champion and also I would only do that if it was obvious that I needed more raw power as opposed to utility in fights to make an impact. So, basically never.

It might happen one day when I get insanely fed on Sona though, but it certainly has not happened yet.

Hmmm, I just realized that maybe the intention is to find a way to incentivize non-supports buying sightstone since just purchasing wards is no longer an option. So perhaps they are not intended for supports at all.

considering that they build from the support gold income items, I doubt it