Thresh, other tank supports, completely busted with Runes Reforged

LiL Bunnie FuFuu··2 votes·4,654 views

Hi I'm a Thresh main in Silver V. I played 5 Thresh games today with the new runes and won four of them. Here are my stats from three of the games:

https://imgur.com/a/3OJ51

I have 280k xp on Thresh and I've been playing him consistently for a year. I cannot remember ever having that many back to back games where I got that many kills and so few deaths. And I know part of it is due to the runes. And by runes I mean Resolve and Domination cause that shit is busted. Why do I say that?

Here's what I build

Resolve: Aftershock -> Font of Life -> Conditioning -> Second Wind

Domination: Cheap Shot -> Zombie ward

Aftershock is probably the most broken rune of them all. On Thresh at least. If I engage on someone I'm basically unkillable for 2.5 seconds due to the massive armor increase (20 + 30% of my current armor, which gives me as much, if not more, bonus resistances as stoneplate passive in lategame). I also get 250-300 damage from it in lategame. Say I'm level 18 and am building warmogs + redemption + eye of the equinox (pretty standard stuff on Thresh) I'm at a max health of about 3k. With the 140 base damage from the rune I'm dealing 245 damage just by standing there. I assume this procs with stoneplate and if it does then the damage is increased to 350 in this hypothetical

That may not do much to tanky targets like Darius or Shen, but its incredibly effective in taking down squishes like the adc from the early game to the endgame. It's also been one of the biggest factors that's allowed me to, sometimes, get more kills than my adc - when I didn't 'take' hardly any kills in lane.

Domination is OP on Thresh because it procs with his hook and its true damage. With my empowered auto, it makes securing kills at low levels ridiculously easy.

A word on tankiness: Thresh is too damn tanky with these runes. I know a lot of people say tanks are getting 'shredded' in runes reforged and considering how broke electocute (50 f*cking percent of your bonus AD) and dark harvest are at the moment I see where they're coming from. That applies more to semi tanky champions or burst mages than full tanks like Thresh, Braum, Nautilus, etc. I mean, can we take a moment to talk about how my getting

  • 30-70 bonus armor and MR (from Aftershock)
  • 210 f*cking bonus health at the start (Resolve tree bonus + relic shield)
  • +8 armor and MR + 5% of the armor and MR I already have at 10 minutes (Conditioning) -- this scales incredibly well with Thresh's passive
  • +5.6 hp/sec every 10 seconds (Second Wind)

is not OK?

I mean I actually can't get poked out of lane now. Especially if I build inspiration + domination. Not only do I get OP version of biscuits (+20% duration), 145 health instead of 130, but a knockoff flash that's up every 10-20 seconds.

btw, my games have been ending at least 15 minutes faster than usual. The 40 minute game was an outlier - although it was the norm until yesterday. I wonder why with all these overpowered runes Riot added, letting me obliterate adcs as the f*cking support :thinking:

8 Comments

Kye L92 votes

It's busted because you're playing against silvers lmao

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

It shouldn't matter what elo I'm in. Already said before runes reforged I was not dunking on people this hard as Thresh support.

Kye L92 votes

silver players dont have fingers, it's pretty easy to abuse runes that deal more damage lol, not to mention they focus the thresh support with a million defense stats because he only builds 2 supportive items so yea obviously ur unkillable. watch bunnyfufuu's gargoyle thresh video that item alone with ur build is making u pretty dumb-tanky as it is.

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

I didn't get focused. Also I've seen bunny's video (and a bunch of others) and that is literally why I started buying stoneplate to begin with.

Kye L92 votes

then there's ur answer lol

Slythion1 votes

honestly, give it more than 1 day before calling something completely busted. People literally have no idea wtf they're doing with these new runes, so let's give it a rest.

That being said: I have a sneaking suspicion that "Inspiration" will settle down to be the most dominant secondary rune class of them all. That class has a lot of gold efficiency

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

"honestly, give it more than 1 day before calling something completely busted." I did the math lol. This stuff is OP. And no I'm not trying to give riot mindless grief. That is why I went into detail about why new runes are too powerful, even on champions with a lot of cc

As for inspiration, it has a lot of utility. I'll probably end up using it over domination although I'm not sure because I like free vision pre sightstone

Slythion1 votes

I also want to touch upon probably the least strong class, as the world "balance" addresses both. Imo the Sorcery class is the weakest in both terms of uniqueness and gold efficiency, with quite honestly sub-par keystones to pretty much any other class.

That's just my opinion though, I play on testing various rune setups on Syndra this weekend

As for the Zombie wards, I like the idea but because of their sight range I really don't think it would be worth to take on anyone outside of jungle. The vision range is too small to be utilized for gank defense as a laner, but they (like a blue trinket) excel if placed in choke point bushes in the jg.

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