I hope the assasins after the rework end up as fair as evelynn.

RainbowIcee··2 votes·514 views

Both her damage moves scale at a 50% AP and 1 of them is quite spamable. That being said she only has 2 moves that can kill a player, after that she is left with running up to them and scratching/punching them to death. Her ult gives her a shield, but cannot kill. Her W does no damage it gives her movement speed to run up to danger for both her and the opponent, and generally if she get's caught first before she catches her pray she is more than likely dead. She has to stalk and circle around opponents to catch them. You can escape evelynn if you have flash because she lacks gap closers and she won't blow you up in a second unless she's full build late game. Aside the debating issue with her stealth, which i think it's fair to have. Taking that into consideration I feel evelynn is fair to fight against and the other assasins should opt for that as-well. Mages and ADC's because too strong after their buff date, if this happens with the assasins. The game will feel a lot more dull.

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warpenguin5554 votes

i believe you misspelled Kha'Zix, Eve is toxic due to her permastealth

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Kha'zix is the definition of a healthy assassin: Doesn't shit on you unless you're the one who fuck ups.

RainbowIcee1 votes

I don't think that's eve's fault, i think riot needs to fix their stealth mechanics in general, or at least the counter measure.

Ralanr1 votes

That's one of the goals in the next preseason. But considering Riot is planning on reworking her eventually it's safe to say she isn't the poster child of balanced assassins.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

Nothing says fair like a champion being completely immune to wards in the early laning phase.

RainbowIcee1 votes

This isn't entirely evelynn's kit's fault it's mostly the stealth mechanics in the game. Such as the problem with fighting shaco when there's no Pinks or scanners around. And this is heavily evident late game when he just insta kills you out of nowhere which is something evelynn can't actually do as her stealth comes off if she get's within a certain range. So no, it's not evelynn that's broken it's the stealth system that is. Making a better detection or chance for them would be great, because think about it. Let's say evelynn's stealth mechanics were gone, what's next? cry about shaco ? cry about kha ? cry about twitch ? cry about every other champ with stealth ?

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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This isn't entirely evelynn's kit's fault it's mostly the stealth mechanics in the game. Such as the problem with fighting shaco when there's no Pinks or scanners around. And this is heavily evident late game when he just insta kills you out of nowhere which is something evelynn can't actually do as her stealth comes off if she get's within a certain range. So no, it's not evelynn that's broken it's the stealth system that is. Making a better detection or chance for them would be great, because think about it. Let's say evelynn's stealth mechanics were gone, what's next? cry about shaco ? cry about kha ? cry about twitch ? cry about every other champ with stealth ?

No, because those champions actually have to use an ability to use their stealth mechanics and don't have them always be up, and as such you can actually ward against them in lane.

RainbowIcee1 votes

you're only just saying that because you are focused on evelynn. I'm like 100% certain that if evelynn wasn't around to argue with you'd pick another champion to do so.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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you're only just saying that because you are focused on evelynn. I'm like 100% certain that if evelynn wasn't around to argue with you'd pick another champion to do so.

I don't give a shit about what you think you know about someone you've never spoken to, but your certainty on something you know dick about only shows me how incredibly illogical you are.

Some of those champions have problems (mostly Shaco's passive), but it's not the stealth itself.

For Eve her permastealth is the problem, and the reason why Rito hits her with the nerf hammer every couple of patches.

RainbowIcee1 votes

well someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today I see.

Choten1 votes

Evelynn is fair because she isn't burst but more like shred. Like a WW you have a lot of time to react to her. She shreds your hp and her skills have low base damages but scale extremely well. Q scales 50% AP + 70% BONUS AD. So if you build magic or physical, you need AD or AP to deal damage unless you go tanky on-hit. Same thing with her E. It scales BONUS AD and AP so you need to build damage to get damage. The attack speed steroid is pointless unless you build damage (or on-hit).

In regards to Eve's chasing ability. People that like to blow her W while going in are going to not have it when you flash away. If an Eve ulted you and goes in normally, they can use their W to chase you after the flash similar to what Tryndamere's do with their W and E.

Not every Assassin is like Evelynn though. Imagine if Fizz or Talon were reworked to have shred damage. If they can't burst you down and escape, they'll just die.

Fondling Gems1 votes

I actually feel that a shred fizz could work due to his ability to avoid damage. For the most part I agree with you though.

RainbowIcee1 votes

Doesn't have to shred just not shit on you with 2 hits. I've done it and get away with it very easily with fizz. Don't even need the ult, As for talon maybe having better sustain and aoe dmg while hurting his single target burst damage. So instead of going in an 100- 0 1 person maybe he can go in on a team and bleed them to like 100 - 75 % and the focus target to like 100 - 15% ~ ish. Unless the target is alone in which i say it should require an extra move for talon to kill them unless he is 5 - 6 items. I feel it would be more fair to be blown up starting late game than just early mid game.

Oleandervine1 votes

Evelynn is broken, in the bad way. She doesn't fulfill her fantasy because her permanent stealth sucks too much power from her kit and denies the ability to have burst. Meddler and Reav3 have together stated that they would be surprised if she didn't get a VGU at some point in 2017. I personally hope Warwick's team picks her up after he launches, because she really needs the love to be the kind of assassin she needs to be. Plus, I hate her stealth because it makes buying skins pointless.

Astôlfo1 votes

lmao what is this joke thread

Catastrop1 votes

I'm sorry, but Eve is like the postergirl for bad assassin design. You either don't know her history or you've never heard of Khazix. Seriously though, Eve can't even be classified as an assassin, she doesn't burst, she chips away at your health with sustained damage.

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