I Think my aram matches last as long as my SR matches

RainbowIcee·Sep 4, 2017·114 votes·2,937 views

And there's better comebacks, i feel ARAM is more balanced atm tbh

31 Comments

Falcon Of DeathSep 4, 201714 votes

i have longer aram games than ranked summ rift

Erractic EickSep 5, 201712 votes

SHHH!!! If the RIOTers hear you, they'll speed up my lovely ARAM games to make it more swift compared to Summoner's Rift, like they did last time.

FalconPawwwwnchSep 4, 20177 votes

Well then you'd be trolling

ARAM is even less balanced than URF is if you go by win rates

I hate SR as much as the next guy right now but lets' be real

PaffWasTakenSep 4, 20177 votes

If you consider if a gamemode is balanced or not based on the winrates, then you don't really understand the concept of ARAM

VallalanSep 4, 20177 votes

ARAM only feels more balanced because you have teams of wildly different skill level and many people get champs that are "op" but have no idea how to play them.

I play a lot of ARAM to de tilt or chill out. and its not balanced in the slightest. there are some champs that are basically an auto win if the person builds properly like Sona, and then there are times where the comps just are such a big counter to the other its laughable.

like 4 juggernauts and a janna vs 3 poke, 1 tank to peel the poke, and an adc to take down the towers quickly. many games I've played result in sub 10 minute wins because one team literally can't do anything but either try to fight when they know they'll lose or just lose all their towers super fast.

its a fun mode, and there are some spicy aram games, but rift is not only more balanced, but has just as many comeback wins. its just we remember the 15 minute pub stomps more on rift cuz they sting pretty bad.

RacoonHunterSep 5, 20174 votes

I agree.. SR games are TOO snowbally these days because riot refuses to fix some of the key issues on champioins that cause games to last no later than 15-20 minutes some time. I've had most of my aram games last 25-30 minutes now because in addition to random champions, you don't have the possibility for snowball because of the timeframe to buy items.

Cybernetic GhostSep 4, 20173 votes

If your ARAM matches (20-30 mins avg.) last as long as SR matches (30-45 mins avg.), then you are playing ARAM wrong. Ideally it should only last 10-15 minutes if the team is coordinated well. Turret-turret-inhibitor-base turrets-nexus. If your team is more focused on scoring kills without pushing lanes, then of course your games will last longer. SR is the same way. Focus on pushing lanes, not scoring kills.

Fun fact: turrets lose like 2/3 of their armor if even one enemy minion is near it. Everyone forgets about this, so if you want to better defend your side of the map, clear waves as fast as you can so the enemy team can't use their minions for cover. Honestly I don't think turrets deal enough damage anyway.

JedditeSep 4, 201723 votes

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Cybernetic GhostSep 4, 20176 votes

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I think you need a hug.

JedditeSep 4, 201717 votes

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Cybernetic GhostSep 4, 20174 votes

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I base my successes on my champion grades, not my wins. It's a game. I play to relax, not to win. Most games my grades are B or better. That's fine by me. Peace.

Velzard of KozSep 5, 20172 votes

I base my successes on my champion grades, not my wins.

To be honest, I can get S- on champion I never played based on circumstances other than my skill.

toastMonkeySep 5, 20173 votes

I think you need a hug.

+1 for chill in the face of heat.

It Hertz When IPSep 4, 20174 votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Velzard of KozSep 5, 20172 votes

Yeah, he attacked his personality, but he has point, too. Just because something is offensive, you can't just delete it throwing ad hominem wiki link at them - throwing links like this really deserves its own argbias name.

His point was Cybernetic Ghost has MMR where he can easily play with and against bot accounts, so it's no wonder he can push turrets so easily.

It Hertz When IPSep 5, 20171 votes

If he had said only that, nicely, maybe I'd agree he had a point. However, all he did was screech about his MMR like an insecure bluejay.

What He SHOULD Have Said: "<insert link> According to this MMR site, you're likely facing and being teamed with primarily bot accounts, which might be why your games are usually short and (probably) rather one-sided. Once you start progressing upwards you'll likely find that the games start getting longer."

What We Got: "YOU'RE A SHITTY MMR SO YOUR OPINION DOESN'T MATTER NOOB"

See? One is an intelligent and calm argument that properly addresses the poster's skewed sample pool of experiences, the other is just loudly and aggressively attacking the poster for "playing ARAM wrong".

Also, the fallacy you are looking for there is the "Argument from fallacy" fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy There already is a term for that :P

Velzard of KozSep 6, 20171 votes

If you go with this, then the original poster should've said: ,,From my experience, my games are this long." Instead we got: ,,Ya'll bitches play ARAM wrong, so shut up." See? I can distort someone's posts, too.

the other is just loudly and aggressively attacking the poster for "playing ARAM wrong".

Now I am losing all hope we can lead intelligent discussion. This is literally what Cybernetic Ghost said first. Like WTF I am asking right now, WTF. Cybernetic Ghost just says based on his experience that we all are playing ARAM wrong, but the other guy is the bad one, lol. This is actually phenomenal.

iamthegoatofwarSep 5, 20171 votes

Gotta agree with you on this. Aram games in my opinion go either "fast as fuck boi" or long and drawn out. I'm in the top 6-7% before you bother looking me up

TzQGRUST39Sep 5, 20173 votes

I guess rank shaming is cool if it's ARAM.

Laughing FishSep 6, 20171 votes

I guess not.

FilDaFunkSep 4, 20174 votes

SR matches last 30-45 mins. lol

OyddAWqJ5rSep 5, 20172 votes

longer*

Pale PirateSep 5, 20172 votes

Hey, hardcore ARAM player here, I have this to say.

Go home OP, you're drunk.

Sir FuzziSep 5, 20172 votes

It's always been more balanced because everyone stays on an actual baseline of relevance without meticulous creep farm. There's also no flying out of the jungle with stealth because teehee, so that makes stealth a bit trickier to actually work with.

That said, it desperately needs an item for melees that helps to reduce the capacities of poke, if we're on the topic of balance.

The TrentSep 5, 20172 votes

My computer is too slow for ARAM and the camera angle is really weird. Otherwise, I love that game mode.

ForeverLaxxSep 5, 20171 votes

I think the fun flipside of this is that if SR games are lasting the same duration as ARAM games, then SR games are too short. But that's not really news.

Kr1sysSep 5, 20171 votes

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I think the fun flipside of this is that if SR games are lasting the same duration as ARAM games, then SR games are too short. But that's not really news.

Woosh